07 Mar 2018 10:14:30
I see this happen so much over the years, once the manager doesn’t fancy a player or drops them or there’s rumors he wants to replace them, suddenly all the supports start saying ah yeh he’s no good was never good enough, sell him and get someone else in. The best example I can give is when I think it was Brendan Rodgers dedcided against skrtle for a bit of a run and all of a sudden he was slatted by everyone, then once he got back into the team and actually had a good season offensively and defensively everyone forgets that a while ago they were calling for his head just because the manager didn’t like him for a while.

Managers have preferences in players, for a number of reasons all to do with personality and talent but that doesn’t mean the ones they want to replace are bad players! I’m not saying I think Clyne is the greatest player ever but some people I see saying he is and has never been good enough for Liverpool, they are only saying that cos there is speculation that regardless of his injury Klopp isn’t convinced by him.
I have to say before this came out and when he started nearly every game for Liverpool in klopps first season I didn’t see many people calling him out so much and certainly don’t think it was the top priority position to strenghten.

1.) 07 Mar 2018
07 Mar 2018 11:43:20
In a team where a manager plays a right back and primarily wants him to defend then cylne is ok but Klopp likes his fullbacks to attack and sadly clyne is nowhere good enough to be an attacking fullback for Liverpool he is miles behind trent attacking wise and not as good defensively as Gomez.
Can I also add that both of these players long term will not even end up as right backs.
So when I add all these things up I hope he leaves Liverpool and goes to a team where his strengths will see him fit in and do well.

2.) 07 Mar 2018
07 Mar 2018 12:01:37
Well I've always called him out ever since he signed. In fact, I even warned everyone before he signed that he wasn't even as good as the cheaper option at the time, Keiron Trippier (pretty damning considering Trippier is merry above average) .

So this is nothing new for me to say at all; Clyne is bang average. He cannot defend, he cannot attack, and he has now had problems behind the scenes just to really stick the knife in. He gives away silly free kicks by pushing or tripping players running away from goal, his crosses are flat and inaccurate, his passing is erratic, his first touch is so bad that his second touch is usually a 50/ 50 duel to keep possession, he doesn't even have the ability to knock a ball past somebody and use his pace to get past them, he is always marking players on the wrong side, he doesn't read a situation and therefore relies on his pace to get back into position etc. I could carry on but you get the point.

For the sake of being fair, he is very quick, very strong, doesn't shy out of tackles and he can kick a ball very hard.

He is simply not Premier League standard though. He's a Championship player who scabbed his way to the top with hype and athleticism. Southampton replaced him with Cedric who is a better player as well.

Clyne can't leave quickly enough in my opinion. We should never have signed him, and it's been nothing but a disaster. The only right back in the Premier League who was worse than Glen Johnson, and Rodgers managed to identify him as the best option to replace him 🤦🏻.

3.) 07 Mar 2018
07 Mar 2018 12:09:35
Both Skrtel and Clyne were very much disliked while they were in the team.

4.) 07 Mar 2018
07 Mar 2018 12:15:40
Skrtel was dodgy and Rodgers didn’t know what he was doing. ;) not a good example.

5.) 07 Mar 2018
07 Mar 2018 12:21:16
Regarding Clyne you say
'some people I see saying he is and has never been good enough for Liverpool, they are only saying that cos there is speculation that regardless of his injury Klopp isn’t convinced by him. '

This is simply not true, he's not good enough and never was, it's got nothing to do with Klopp not been convinced by him.

Clyne used to play a lot how? who really knows but so did Migs, football is a funny old game at times. Clyne from day one has never been upto the task of playing for Liverpool, he's nowhere near Liverpool quality, never was. TAA and Gomez are miles ahead of him imo.

6.) 07 Mar 2018
07 Mar 2018 12:48:46
OP, your point would have had some muscle behind it had you not picked those two cast offs with which to make your point. Ed01 sounded the alarm as soon as Clyne was signed that he was not good enuff and at the start of last season, Klopp was looking to let him go and bring in a new RB. When he could not, he converted TAA, a midfielder, to a RB cos TAA is better by miles than Clyne in what he wants his RB to do esp. offensively.

As for Skrtl, Ed01 had said the same thing. That he was poor, a liability at the back, had no pace, no sense of awareness and frankly IMO, stole a living at LFC cos he would not even make the stands had he been part of our current CB set up. Again, good thought process, horrible examples.

7.) 07 Mar 2018
07 Mar 2018 13:52:51
Salah. Saying Clyne has never been good enough is a no no from me. He is solid defensively and isn’t as bad as people say going forward. Yes I know his crosses aren’t the best at times but I still think he has something to offer us. If we sign a new RB that’s fine but if we don’t then I honestly see Clyne playing a bigger role than people think/ want.

{Ed001's Note - sorry but he is terrible defensively and worse going forward. I really do not understand why we bought him, he was crap at Southampton and dreadful at Palace. He has never and will never be good enough for the top flight. He is just athletic.}

8.) 07 Mar 2018
07 Mar 2018 14:11:56
Solid defensively? Sorry Leon but are we talking about the same player here? that's utter tripe mate he is nowhere near solid in defence and never was.

Agreed Ed and MK in what you have both said, why we bought him is way beyond me.

9.) 07 Mar 2018
07 Mar 2018 14:34:56
Ed001 I think you're confusing athletic for just fast haha. It's a shame too because he frequently found himself in promising positions and just scuffed it.

{Ed001's Note - I meant he was quite strong and could get up and down the line all game long, as well as fast.}

10.) 07 Mar 2018
07 Mar 2018 15:37:58
Clyne can defend? Since when? His positional sense is woeful.

11.) 07 Mar 2018
07 Mar 2018 15:46:51
Think there's a whole lot of going over the top here. No he was never world class but wasn't the worst either. Average to decent. the same as we were at. Maybe we have moved up a level since and he's been left behind. He's a full back though. There's some sort of myth going about these days that full backs attack none stop and actually score and create goals. Nearly everyone says how good gomez is. I know that might be more potential. But he's pretty poor in the final 3rd.

12.) 07 Mar 2018
07 Mar 2018 16:09:32
Whilst I don't scour every corner of the internet its only here that I've seen such a dislike for Clyne and I do think Ed1's influence is key.

I think he's a decent to good full back, maybe not special but perfectly adequate.

{Ed001's Note - give it a rest, people like you ruin the site because they make such snide comments accusing others of lacking the sense to form their own opinion. Do you realise what a prick you seem when you do that? Why can you not just disagree without trying to make it all my fault?}