29 Jan 2018 17:35:18
The short sightedness of lfc fans blows my mind sometimes. Expecting Messi or his equivalent every transfer window and throwing a fit when it doesn't happen. Coutinho had to go. No way around it and honestly, he didn't play a number of games this season when he was here and we had no issue finding goals. So, we need a replacement, yes. But if one isn't available what are we to do? Buy someone for the sake of buying? And who would you have us buy? Sanchez nearing 30 and on huge wage demands? A player who, yes can be great, but also go missing and sulk around the field. Or mykintarian who has not managed to come good in how many seasons at United? Or maybe you want to pay over the odds because everyone knows we have countinho money and expect more from us because of it? And to call for fsg out to me is laughable. It's like the 'supporters' forget what position we were in when they bought the club. No they're not abromovich etc and spend to spend. And I hope none of us would want that. It's going to make it that much better when we finally win the league. That being said, we need a defensive mid. Can and wini aren't good enough and we can't rely on Henderson to be fit. We need a gk or give ward a run migs and karius aren't good enough. And then we need a CB pairing for VVD. Matip is adequate cover but now where near the level we should expect especially considering the decade plus we had pairings of hyypia, carragher, agger etc. Yes we need to strengthen. We all know our biggest problem areas. But you can't manifest a player and you can't force them to play for us. So let's all calm down a bit.

1.) 29 Jan 2018
29 Jan 2018 17:58:50
100% agree mate.

2.) 29 Jan 2018
29 Jan 2018 18:01:02
If expecting us to replace our best player after selling him half way through the season is shortsighted then i guess im shortsighted. I cannot believe people are happy about us ending this window without replacing what we have lost in Coutinho, its not like we haven't had since the summer to plan his replacement. Im not FSG out, but im still annoyed were consistently the top team that weakens whilst the others continue to strengthen, this transfer window is the exact reason players like torres have left in the past.

{Ed001's Note - when did we sell Salah or Firmino? Amazing how Coutinho became our best player the moment he wanted out, before then he was inconsistent etc. Sad how fans have changed.}

3.) 29 Jan 2018
29 Jan 2018 18:11:20
Lol exactly Ed. Coutinho was never our best player, I'd of always put Firmino before him, then of course when Salah joined he was twice the player Coutinho was.

{Ed001's Note - nobody said he was until he wanted out.}

4.) 29 Jan 2018
29 Jan 2018 18:29:13
He was the best player, if Firmino or Salah was the best, they'd be at Barcelona now after a £160m move.

{Ed001's Note - if it worked as simply as you clearly do, yes that would be correct, but it does not. If you are going to make idiotic statements like that there is no point talking at all. Clearly you have the transfer dealings sense of Brendan Rodgers, not thinking about what a team needs and think it is just about collecting the best players you can get. Coutinho was bought because he suits the role they wanted him to play, neither Salah nor Firmino do. Last season Mane was head and shoulders above the rest of our players, using your 'logic' they should have spent the summer trying to buy him then.}

5.) 29 Jan 2018
29 Jan 2018 18:30:24
If you don't think he was than that's your opinion, everyone is allowed one. But let's be real if not the best he was one of the best and a very important player, the fact is we now go into the second half of the season with our top 4 competitors strengthening and us weakening our teams.

{Ed001's Note - the only player gone from the first team is Coutinho, the arrival of VVD should have balanced out that. He was far from important, as was shown by the fact that whenever he has been missing our results have not suffered at all. Suddenly he is the messiah when he did nothing to prove himself worthy of the adoration he gets while here. We were dog turd when he played in games against low block teams all last season, yet suddenly people are blaming his going for us struggling against them in the last 2 games. Short memories.}

6.) 29 Jan 2018
29 Jan 2018 18:31:15
for the last 2 seasons Coutinho was voted player of the year by both his team mates and the fans. Last year voted player of the year by former players association (5 times) .

{Ed001's Note - so what? McManaman won those year after year when he was nowhere near the best player in the team. He spent his career with us running down blind alleys but, just like Coutinho, it gets forgotten that he wastes 90% of possession because once in a blue moon he does something special. Those awards are meaningless and come down to MOTD moments.}

7.) 29 Jan 2018
29 Jan 2018 18:37:54
Oh I know Ed1 mate and now suddenly he's the best thing since sliced bread, what a joke. He is a good player there's no doubt about that and I'm not saying he wasn't but our best? far from it. He had very few good games for us this season, in fact at times it was like playing with 10 men because he did bugger all some of the games he actually played for us.

I'm actually overall very happy we got rid of him, he was causing issues and needed to be gone. I'm also ok with not buying a replacement yet, it is what it is, I'd rather wait until the summer and see what our options are then because to me, we have more positions to worry about other then that position.

8.) 29 Jan 2018
29 Jan 2018 18:39:46
LiverpoolFC8, i think you need to watch the game a little better mate if you think he was better then Salah and or Firmino, he was nowhere near their quality.

9.) 29 Jan 2018
29 Jan 2018 18:40:12
Firmino is our best player. Coutinho is brilliant and was for us too but he was just part of a great attacking set of players. The rest are still here.
Coutinho was probably the most capable of those magic moments but salah and firminos work running and class would have them ahead of him for me. This year anyway.

10.) 29 Jan 2018
29 Jan 2018 18:47:32
Beautiful thread led by the OP. Some LFC fans have the attention span of the American public. It lats about two minutes. I remember people giving Cou the business when he wanted to leave in the summer and suddenly now, he was our best player and had he stayed, Can and Wiji would have been up to the task, Matip would have suddenly become a better defender and not lazy, Firmino would not have missed his penalty and to cap it all off, we would have beaten Swansea and WBA by his mere presence on the pitch. What a crock of horse manure. If that does not work, well you can never lose any points for going after FSG cos after all, they are the season our team has shown a complete lack of desire and fight since the City game BUT get NO credit when we were 18 unbeaten and put 4 past City, undefeated in our CL group and are sitting 4th, two points ahead of Spurs and 3 GIGANTIC 3 points off Chelsea. Oh, the horror! Yeah people, these are the types of nonsensical, illogical statements the rest of us are being subjected to by so-called LFC "fans". Good grief!

11.) 29 Jan 2018
29 Jan 2018 18:51:32
So are you honestly saying Ed that you do not think letting phil go and not buying another Creative/ attacking option will not hurt our chances of top 4? Im not pretending Phil was Messi but he offered us things we do not have anymore in the team.

{Ed001's Note - I think keeping him would have hurt our chances far more, that is my point. If we could sign the right player, then we would. I would rather we waited than just did a Rodgers and signed any old player.}

12.) 29 Jan 2018
29 Jan 2018 18:55:49
Why did his team mates vote for him 2 or 3 years in a row as the best player?

{Ed001's Note - who cares? Since when did a popularity contest become relevant?}

13.) 29 Jan 2018
29 Jan 2018 19:05:19
Sometimes it’s really hard to come on here and social media in general because of the utter nonsense that comes out the mouths of some of our so called ‘supporters’

I’m another one wanting to say a big thankyou to all Ed’s and to many users that make this site enjoyable to visit daily.

To the rest of you, Get behind the club. Show some belief and togetherness. We all support the same great club and want success, but be realistic about it though.

14.) 29 Jan 2018
29 Jan 2018 19:13:47
I agree 100% on that Ed, but that was part of my point. We must have known this was coming since what happened in the summer, Im simply annoyed we have not identified a player in the months that have followed the summer transfer requests and fake injuries that would fit in and be a good replacement . I agree we should never panic buy for the sake of it but cannot understand how we have failed to identify a realistic replacement since the summer. There has to be tons of players in world football that can come in and improve us and would fit our system, that's my issue with what is happening anyway.

{Ed001's Note - if Coutinho is as good as some fans seem to have decided he was, then we would need to buy Messi to adequately replace him. Sadly we can't get Messi, so we are struggling.}

15.) 29 Jan 2018
29 Jan 2018 19:17:27
Mark, just because his team mates voted for him been the best player it doesn't mean he was mate lol.

16.) 29 Jan 2018
29 Jan 2018 19:17:59
*deleted*

{Ed001's Note - I was going to discuss what you said, but as you ended it by being an utter tit, it was clear you were only looking to be an arse. Come back when you want to discuss it rather than cause a fight.}

17.) 29 Jan 2018
29 Jan 2018 19:25:49
Firmino is not the best player in the squad. Salah is.
But it doesn't really matter now does it, let's just all hope we make the top 4 starting with a win tomorrow night.

18.) 29 Jan 2018
29 Jan 2018 19:31:05
But what we could do ed is buy somebody that is better than we have now. We definitely don't need a player as good as Messi to simply improve our team. I guess we will see at the end of the season if what the club has done/ not done was the right thing, time will tell. until then its back to losing my voice and having minor heart attacks every game, lol.

{Ed001's Note - like who? The front 3 are not easy to improve on and nobody would be happy if a central midfielder came in as the replacement.}

19.) 29 Jan 2018
29 Jan 2018 19:34:20
Alrite Salah (I never thought I would say that) forget about this season Salah has been the best no question then Firmino. But for me and clearly many others he was our best player in 2015/ 16 and last year. I went to a few home games before Christmas last year and he was always really good until his injury.

Never mistake this for me not wanting to sell him because I would have sold him as well we had no choice.

Mane would probably have been last season but he missed too many matches.

In general I like you positive attitude it is what our supporters need at this moment.

20.) 29 Jan 2018
29 Jan 2018 19:40:19
Roasted. lol. 'utter tit' cheers ed, baby food all over my leg now, that tickled me.

{Ed001's Note - it is a shame because he made good points but he ruined it at the end with a needless dig that was only going to cause an argument with me, which was clearly the intention.}

21.) 29 Jan 2018
29 Jan 2018 19:45:59
Maybe you can actually help with that positive attitude, Mark. It is not just someone else's job to be positive for the rest of us. We are all in this together and need to keep our heads up. On to Huddersfield!

22.) 29 Jan 2018
29 Jan 2018 19:49:18
Thats a little harsh mate. I thought you might take it like that. You don't know me I don't know you. Writing is not my strong point it is hard to write things that I want to say, it can come accross in a few different ways. I wasn't trying to be a little smart arse I am 45. I just disagree quite strongly on this one topic.

You made statements about all games all fans and this isn't true about coutinho. Anyway on most football items (you might say nearly all) you know more than me about other teams I only really watch our team.
As for Mcmanaman I had a season ticket then and I really liked himas well, only Fowler was better over a few seasons. Maybe Rob Jones but didn't play enough.
Anyway I admire your site a lot and which no offence.

{Ed001's Note - I exaggerated for effect, yes, with the all fans stuff.

What you said just came across as a nasty dig. I apologise that I misread what you said. It felt like you were just trying to needle me into reacting. You have even said you thought I might take it like that.

McManaman I feel was far from our best player, he just produced the most flashy moments. No one remembers the hard work, the tracking back etc, they forget the 40 runs into blind alleys that lose the ball, they just remember the one moment that led to a great goal. That is why attackers always win the popularity contests, never the defenders.

I just think people are doing the same with Coutinho. Yes he was capable of moments of brilliance, sadly they were just moments. I mean people this season were acclaiming his performances when he was terrible for the team. Great for himself, but god awful for the team. He won't do that at Barcelona.}

23.) 29 Jan 2018
29 Jan 2018 20:07:11
You too BRover you have a good upbeat attitude and that is what is needed now. If you check my post from earlier today I said what I hope you want to here. On banter 2 I think. Time to support.

24.) 29 Jan 2018
29 Jan 2018 20:15:47
Wiw. i've read all the above thread and you guys plus Ed001 have cheered ne up no end. Thank you.

25.) 29 Jan 2018
29 Jan 2018 20:16:27
I would be happy with a central player, in fact that would be my preference. We need someone that can take 1 or 2 opposition player out of a game via dribbles or passes to create space for our front three, right now were in a constant state of passing around, not finding enough space as were so narrow and then just pumping awful crosses into the box. The ideal replacement would have obviously been Naby Keita early but unfortunately that wasnt possible or we didn't see value in the deal.

26.) 29 Jan 2018
29 Jan 2018 20:42:54
Top man, Mark. I agree with you, Ed. I remember two games in particular where Cou was completely crap and a liability all game long and those were vs Burnley at home and Spurs at Wembley. V Spurs, we might as well have been playing a man down cos Cou lost the ball 2/ 3 of the time he got it and rarely bothered to track back and moaned each time he lost it. He was dreadful. The Burnley game, he made a deliberate effort not to pass to anyone BUT Bobbie, taking wild shots and dribbling into blind alleys hence, losing possession. don't even get me started on his dreadful behavior behind the scenes. Sure, he had some good moments for us BUT before then, many called him inconsistent and a flash in the pan, only to turn their coats and call him the great hope after we lost two games. Surlely, those two statements cannot be correct at the same time BUT trust me, they will try to convince us that they can.

27.) 29 Jan 2018
29 Jan 2018 21:05:05
I think it's very easy mark to misinterpret people via messages, no hard feelings mate i just personally don't agree with what you was saying but of course, we're all entitled to our own opinions mate :)

28.) 29 Jan 2018
29 Jan 2018 21:16:33
Just need a top goal keeper.

Have a thing at all the changes that have been made since we signed migs.

Lovren, matio, vvd, moreno, clyne, robertson, wij, can, lallana, mane, salah, firmino.

And we still suffer. It's telling.

29.) 29 Jan 2018
29 Jan 2018 21:36:20
Well that was a can of worms. And to continue it, coutinho was kind of a one trick pony. He'd continually cut inside and look for that shot. He lost possession a lot and he lacked the ability to defend from the front. We got a heck of a deal for a player who really wasn't worth the hype. And yes, firminio, mane, and Salah are more valuable to our team and come summer when we buy and increase the quality of our team in several positions instead of spending all the money on one player, we will be in a much better position. We weren't winning the league this year. FA cup is a distraction. We've had one competition for months now and the goal of top 4. And if we get second or we get 4th as long as we're up there who cares?

30.) 30 Jan 2018
29 Jan 2018 23:57:51
I don't feel Salah is our best player at all. The fact that he is doing so well is down to the fact that our attack as a whole creates so much. The amount of shots he puts straight at the keeper is astounding and his first touch can leave a lot to be desired at times. The fact that they are all fast and interchangeable causes all the issues, just like when we had Coutinho. Our best football was played when we attack en mass and unselfishly. (remember Firmino's first goal for us? ) No player was bigger than the club, never has been and never will be. We are a force when we are all together, maybe us as fans should take that into consideration and get on the same page.