10 Jan 2018 20:38:32
What's up, fellow Ed's and Reds>

I was just watching the show THE DEBATE by Sky on youtube and Danny Murphy and Christian Purslow (former LFC director, I think) were on talking about Cou, his fee and how do LFC spend the money replacing him. Purslow made a few comments about how Amrerican owners (not just FSG) are untrusted by the English fans cos they have a type of "bottom line" mentality of trying to make as much profit as possible as a result, FSG may not allow Klopp to reinvest the Cou money into the team hence, feeding into the pathetic narrative that they are only after profits and Murphy was concurring with the same thing, saying Klopp may not be given the power to bring the players he wants in.

This is why is why NOBODY with a functioning brain should believe whatever they hear or read in the papers. IMO, these guys were out to cause confusion here, trying to turn the fans against the owners knowing fully well that some of the fans are already skeptic of them about this very issue, something the Ed's have said is patently false. Purslough said that LFC sold Cou cos the owners saw a way to make some serious profits and the fee was too hard to refuse. What a crock of complete horse manure!

Per the Ed's, FSG have ploughed back near ALL the funds from transfers back into the squad since they even hired KK. They have backed Klopp to the hilt since he arrived and NEVER refused him a player he REALLY wanted. If Klopp did not want a player, it was cos Klopp did not want or could not get said player and not cos FSG vetoed his request or funds were not available. They have given him all the power to pick his targets and have dropped some serious cash this season already as we all know.

After watching this show, my advice to my fellow posters on here is to simply ignore what you hear or watch in the media cos they have NO CLUE of what is going on at LFC and even the ex players talk some nonsense and should not be listened to either. I propose we thank our Ed's for the goods the provide us which allows many of us to know what is going on and not be sheep just bleating on and on about what is said by and in the media. THEY DON'T HAVE A CLUE. We love you, Ed's. Thanks for all you do.

1.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 20:48:00
Amen brother amen.

2.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 20:51:49
Ironically, am i right in saying Purslow is the absolute buffoon who pulled the plug on deals for Ronaldo, Alves, Silva and Villa because they were "too expensive"?

Yeah, well done Purslow. Just feeding the trolls. Murphy is an absolute muppet anyway, but you'd expect better from a former director, than to give the xenophobes ammunition. In fact its worse than that, they're giving them justification. I'd just like to apologise to any Americans reading this on behalf of everyone in England, and explicitly distance myself and 90% of English people from this race-fueled hatred and stereotyping.

3.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 21:04:00
That not Rick Parry you're thinking of Mk.

4.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 21:08:20
My advice:
read as much as you can, listen as much as you can and make your own mind up. Never listen to people who tell you what to think. 🤝.

5.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 21:16:04
I will never put down financial responsibility by a club/ business. Sorry.

6.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 21:18:45
MK, nationality based not race based. People here are the same race as the UK.

Christian Purslow I think is the guy who was the acting CEO and brokered the deal with FSG in H&Gs final days and first few months of FSG till they appointed Ian Ayre. Him and Ian Ayre were instrumental in the sale for FSG going through if I am not wrong. Christian Purslow didn't suggest FSG are holding money back, he said not to spread it thin between multiple players and sign a few top players.

Danny Murphy I agree is a muppet.

7.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 21:25:08
Exactly Ron. I haven't made up my mind one way or the other about the owners. Ed001 said he doesn't trust them and that makes me worried.

I don't want to throw money away like we have in the past, but if you think a player is the real deal spend the £100m back Klopp because the player will probably be worth £150m in a few seasons.

At the end of the summer we will all have the answers. Are we in it to win it, or are we Arsenal?

8.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 21:20:36
MK, I think that was Rick Parry, mate. Also, I'm American and I forgive you tho I think you went a bit hard on the clown Purslow. I will tell you that there are other team or franchise owners in the U. S who only believe in profits and that is in any sport. FSG is NOT are not one of those. They took over the Boston Red Sox near two decades ago, a team that had not one the World Series of baseball for near a century. How many have they won since then? 3 or 4. They have the highest wage bill not just in baseball (a sport with no salary cap so spend as you want), BUT in world sports I think. Money is of NO issue to them and T. Henry and his crew individually, are multi billionaires that make a fake billionaire like Trump look like a pauper.

They may have made mistakes and all that in the past BUT they have done well since then and backed every manager they have had tho, they may not have trusted BR with his scatter gun transfer strategy hence the TC was created BUT they still gave him over 300m over his tenure so there's that. Our owners wanna win as their resume shows that and are ready to pay up if needed cos they believe in the manager we currently have. I just think these hacks in the media who claim to know about footie and LFC (they no as much a a gnat) do us a huge disservice by feeding the trolls and making up stories about our club and owners which are NOT true. DISGUSTING!

9.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 21:50:57
BRover they love baseball they don't even like football. You can count on 1 hand the matches the owners attend per season. They have sold our 2 best players since they have been owners (most would say rightly so) but they can't sell anyone else Klopp wants to keep. So let's see who comes in the next 6 to 8 months.

10.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 21:40:10
Cheers guys, i was unsure which is why i asked the question before launching into him about it! I tend not to follow what goes on in the board room that much, because i care more about the pitch! I knew it began with a P though 😂

My point still stands because Rick Parry wasn't American either! So it's not exclusively an Americanism to refuse to spend money! And i also still expect better from a former director.

I thought it was that Martin Broughton guy who brokered the deal, but i probably have that wrong too. As i say, i don't really pay much attention to who is running the club as long as I'm entertained at the weekend!

Either way, two so called professionals should not be going public to stoke fires that should never have been started! Even if you have a problem with FSG, it is down to them as individuals and their nationality shouldn't come in to it. I take this stuff very seriously because my partner (American/ Scottish) and therefore my son is of American descent.

Completely agree by the way, Ron! Wise words.

11.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 21:58:49
Great insight into he Sox, BRover. I only took a small interest in Baseball after FSG bought the club. So i just assumed the Sox had always been one of the better teams alongside the NY sides. Sounds like FSG performed a minor miracle!

I agree that the owners have made some mistakes, but i just thimk anyone claiming that Americans are any more greedy than any other nationality should take a long hard look at English billionaire, Mike Ashley, who is absolutely destroying one of the top 10 clubs in English football with his greed. Nationality is irrelevant. People making stereotypes (racial, nationality, religious etc. Whatever it comes under) should be careful. Children and the poorly-educated will pick up on these statements and form an opinion based on ignorance and a lack of understanding. Whilst your statement may be harmless or even made in jest, you don't know what the children who learn from you will grow up to become, and the things they will do based on what you taught them. As an older generation, it is our responsibility to make sure the next generation are not as close minded as those from the past. Statements like those made by Murphy and Purslow, and their normalisation, are a massive part of the problem.

This is the same Murphy who recently said a scouser on crutches who celebrated a goal would lose his benefits, despite the fact he has a job and was recovering from an operation. He's out of order, with some of the rubbish he comes out with.

12.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 22:46:25
Bet waro loved that show.

13.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 22:02:11
Mark, i presume you mean Coutinho and Suarez? Who sanctioned the money to sign them, do you know? Hmmm, exactly.

14.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 22:34:04
Great Post BRover, and I totally agree, I was watching the same Debate, I still can't believe there is still this hatred towards the owners, who I think have been immense since taking over from the 2 cowboys. They have delivered on the promises they have made when they first came in (apart more silverware, but that hasn't necessarily been down to the owners) . They have increased the stadium capacity to nearly 55000 seats, and plans to extend the anfield road end stand to make the stadium close to 60,000. Compare that to the cowboys who said there would be a spade in the ground within 90 days.

In terms of the transfers, have they got some wrong? ofcourse, the transfer committee was a bit of a disaster, but we did bring in some good players that are still with the club and important players, I would say Lallana would stand out the most as well as Can and Firmino. I think the owners have improved allot transfer wise since Klopps arrival, HE has final say and HE brings in the players HE wants. And his overall record has been very good. Salah, Mane, Wijnaldum, for example have been immense and have turned us into one of the most attractive teams in europe, and we have one of the best managers in Europe, who produce the type of football that Liverpool love.

The owners have just invested 75 million for VVD, making him the most expensive defender in history, that is a massive statement from the club, and as I said the other day, we have lost Couts, but we have grown to be in a position where we lose a very important player and it doesn't mean we will be crippled for the next few years like when we were when we lost Suarez for example. Klopp has waited to get the player he wanted in VVD, and it is too early to tell but I do feel he can be a mainstay in our defence for the next 10 years, he reminds me a bit of Sami Hyypia, and we have not had a central defender since he left the club who is big and strong and reliable. in the last 6 months we have smashed our own record transfers, first in Keita for 48 million, and now 75million for VVD, this is starting bring us closer to the likes of Man City, PSG, Barcelona etc. We need to make sure we spend wisely, is why I would be comfortable to not even spend the Couts money this window, because I want us to get the right player, rather than an expensive failure.
I trust in Klopp, I trust in our owners. I do believe we have for the first time in my life good depth in the squad, rather than a good starting 11 and because of that we have the chance to have sustained success, it may be slow to get there but will last longer because of it.

YNWA.

15.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 22:49:32
Why do people seem to believe klopp has had coutinho ripped from his grasp? If klopp believed it was a good idea for coutinho to stay, he would of kept him. In fact he did, for 6 months, despite the club being offered an insane amount of money.

Klopp has tried to convince him to stay and has let him go on his judgement alone. Do people seriously believe the way to success is by keeping all the unhappy players for the duration of their contracts? To be fair, arsenal have tried that and look at their success. Oh wait.

16.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 23:20:27
As an American I agree with brover. I could help but feel that they saw similarities in the red Sox and LFC. Both very historic clubs with limited recent success. As brover says they resurrected them and when against the evil empire Yankees full force. Yes they want to make money and surely their passion might not be football but you have to see the correlation and figure they want to match that success and bring LFC back to the stature it deserves.

17.) 11 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 23:29:41
I'm bored of this type of nonsense now. All I'll leave you with, is be careful what you say around kids. In the 1930's their were a small minority of people who believed a certain group of people were more greedy than others, and it ended in the holocaust. No matter how small it may seem, never bring race, nationality, religion etc into the judgement of someone's character. Words can do a lot of lasting damage.