10 Jan 2018 14:47:34
Hello Eds,

Given the rumours that Liverpool are looking at new goalkeepers (Allison has been mentioned), is there any news on which of the existing keepers will stay and/ or be sold?

It looks like Danny Ward is not in the plans so assuming he's one on the way out (same for Bogdan), would Liverpool look to retain Mignolet or Karius as the second keeper. I guess neither would consider being a third choice.

Thanks.

{Ed025's Note - thats a tough one xyz, neither migs or karius will want to be an understudy to the new keeper coming in and ward wants away, myself i would keep karius and ditch migs but im not sure how klopp sees it mate..


1.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 15:54:00
Shame for Ward as he should have had more chances as none of the other 2 have been fantastic enough to not of been dropped, even in quiet games Karius seems over confident and in no rush to do anything, as for Migs.


2.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 15:55:10
Might be a case of all 4 going and starting from scratch.


3.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 16:07:47
I don't think karius signed on to play 2nd fiddle to anyone, should we sign a new keeper I expect both ward and karius to leave, we should not be in this mess regarding goalkeepers imo.

{Ed025's Note - for me the manager has a lot to answer for on that count KK..


4.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 16:09:11
Arrizabalaga could be available for free! Surely worth a gamble or a cheeky low bid now?


5.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 17:13:03
I agree and disagree ed, ultimately its down to the player to prove he is good enough to make himself no.1. Karius just has not done that for whatever reason. I do however lay squarely at klopps feet the debacle over the nevillegate bullying etc and dropping him too soon. But again he has every chance in training to prove he is demonstrably better than migs and he just has not done that. Maybe less day trips to berlin and new york and more time honing his skills, just a thought.

Ultimately if someone like allison comes in all three of them will leave and we will maybe see an older keeper come in as no.2 and a youth promotion.


6.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 17:29:12
And LancasterRed gets the prize for the first mention (that I've seen anyway) of a "cheeky bid" in this transfer window!


7.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 19:28:38
It's a coming, all you have to do is use your eyes and you will see that Karius is better than Migs by a mile potentially. He just needs a long run in the team to get experience at this level, one where many GK's like DDG, Reina, Bravo Barthez have struggled mightily.

Also, how is the player or GK supposed to prove himself when the manager is completely clueless on this issue and plays Karius once every month which does not allow him to get into any rhythm, consistency or understanding with his team mates and his back line?

Football is real life and NO player will get better if he does not get the opportunity play consistently and prove himself and prove us right or wrong. That is a known fact so why should the rules suddenly change for Karius or for any other player?


8.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 21:07:20
Brover that is nonsense, klopp is no fool and karius im sure does not train in isolation. I don't personally see how karius is demonstrably better than migs they both have flaws in their game. Its down to karius to step it up in training and prove he is the better option long term.

Yes ideal world karius gets a long run but look what happened the last time he got a run and made a few mistakes. The media and the fickle fans got on his back and klopp felt he had to drop him. When he has been given a chance he has been slow and sloppy with the ball at his feet and made a few questionable decisions. So no he is not clearly better in all aspects than migs. Hence why klopp is unwilling maybe mistakenly to mess up continuity like he did last season.

A fresh start is what is required with a top class keeper if he is not going to give karius an extended run which is unlikely now isn't it.


9.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 21:38:04
It's a coming, you not personally seeing that Karius is much better than Migs is your opinion, which is NOT fact. You said oit yourself, the fickle fans got on his back cos he made a mistake or two as a new player in a new and tougher league. Is that not the real problem? The fact that those losers could not bear with a young guy learning a new league so Klopp had to go against his own conviction (Ed01 said so, not me) to bench a guy he really did not wanna bench?

Btw, your top GK is a myth based on pixie dust cos NOBODY will sell their top GK to us (Allisson is NOT a top GK. Decent at best) so you are wasting your time hoping for one. Would you have sold Reina in his prime? Would Utd sell DDG to us? Did not think so BUT hey, you can always dream. I don't. I dream with my eyes open. Oh Allisson if he comes in, will be new to the PL and when he makes a mistake or two (which they all too), they will turn on him again and we'll be back to square one.

Karius could come good if everyone could get off his back support him like I did Ox who I did not want at LFC, and let him play and prove himself instead nitpicking on his "errors" which are NOT errors just cos he did not kick a ball fast enough for you. It seems the guy can't do a damn thing right with the way people slate him YET the kid does his best every time he plays, putting Migs to shame while it it.


10.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 22:11:03
You do realise that your opinion is not a fact either, you belittle the manager saying he has no clue and try to denegrate my opinion with nonsense like pixie dust. Everybody has a price, coutinho is case in point as was vvd for southampton.

You have your opinion i have mine there is no right or wrong because neither of us has final say on this matter. Karius is an average keeper who could be competent with a run of games in my opinion but nothing more in my opinion. If we bring in a top class keeper which is a posibility and ed has confirmed as a fact, then karius may be off along with migs and ward who wants out. Allison is a better keeper than migs and karius btw decent or not.