10 Jan 2018 08:46:48
A good video on BBC from a french journalist of how its very unlikely that monaco sell Lemar in this window

(a) Considering he will be part of the french national team which has a great chance of winning the 2018 WC, they see his value only increasing in the Summer hence would not like to sell him.

(b) Lemar himself would not want to jeopardize his chances of being part of the france set up. He would like to remain at the club where he is the star, more settled and will generally start most games.

It is seeming more and more like we will end up not getting anyone this window as klopp wants only specific player or non.

It makes me think why we didn't just sell couthino in the summer and get a replacement player then.

1.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 08:58:05
The notion that Klopp will only settle for one specific player is a myth. He will only settle for a specific player if he's not convinced by the alternatives. If the notion was true then Salah would still be at Roma.

Ed001 said that Lemar was top preference for this window but highly unlikely, yet it is still expected that we will sign someone, so Lemar isn't exactly the be all end all.

2.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 09:07:35
Coutinho is probably the best person to ask.

3.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 09:10:21
I would imagine many would be unimpressed if we failed to bring in any replacement at all for Coutinho, especially if our form then dips: looking at the midfielders at our disposal right now and it is not really inspiring:

Henderson (injury prone), Emre Can (moving on), Milner (shouldn't be getting games in midfield), Wijinaldum (continually fails to affect games), Lallana (returning from a long lay off), Oxlaide-Chamberlain (still learning the role and lacks the passing range and vision), Grujic (off on loan), Woodburn (off on loan) .

I mean, if fully fit, its still not a bad midfield, but you have to feel it lacks a certain amount of guile and finesse and vision - Henderson, Can, Milner and even Oxlaide-Chamberlain to an extent are all similar midfield players - high energy, good work rate, tackle and hassle, but aren't really so strong in terms of beating a man or creating space or picking a pass (though Henderson does have good vision and range where he plays on the pitch tends to see him not be able to use it so often) .
Lallana has the ability to make space but he lacks the killer pass so, whilst offering a different quality, it doesn't really make up for the absence of Coutinho.
Wijinaldum just seems to have little to no impact on most games he plays - lots of sideways passing but zero guile or attacking threat which is surprising considering he was, for all his career until moving to Liverpool, an attacking player.

I hope we do manage to sign an adequate replacement otherwise it wouldn't make a whole lot of sense for us to allow him to leave - if we didn't though how would people feel about giving TAA a run in midfield? I think technically he is very good, he has really good vision and excellent ability to find a man as well as being excellent at set pieces. He is young, so it is obviously too early, but I wonder how well he'd do if played in such a role.

{Ed025's Note - i think its too much to ask of the lad seano..

4.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 09:47:07
I agree ED I think it would place too much of a burden on him, I could imagine him transitioning to such a role in future though (should his development continue on its upwards trajectory) .

{Ed025's Note - that could happen seano but its too soon yet mate..

5.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 09:49:23
We’ve got more out of Barcelona than they offered before, at the point they made the offer in the summer, chances are that we’d not have been able to got someone in or we’d have panic bought.

6.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 10:28:37
Why are you all obsessed with who we will get in to replace coutinho?
We have already signed his replacement in keita, your deluded if you think they are going to spend anymore money. The last minute deal for keita and the deal they ballsed up for van dijk is were the couthiho money was going to be spent in the summer and couthiho would have gone in the summer if those two deals had of been done, and you would of all been on here thanking F$G for the two players because there are none so stupid as those who can't see.

An early deal for keita or nobody, that's what will happen this window so save yourselves the disappointment as your all setting yourselves up for a fall.

So I'm now eagerly anticipating the "well if that's all we sign I'm very happy" posts.

I'm putting an early shout on here and I hope and pray 🙏 I'm wrong, Porto will knock us out and we won't finish top 4,why I hear you ask, the coutinho ripple effect. I think him going now in the way he did will upset the harmony of the dressing room, he has friends still in the team and probably has players who are glad he's gone, chamberlain stopped following him on twitter or whatever nonsense that is which a lot of my mates are happy about and endeared chamberlain to them as they were unsure on his signing. Sell the player but you've chosen the completely wrong time to sell, but we'll see them impact of that decision in the coming months.

7.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 11:22:27
Why on earth do you think the coutinho and van dijk deals are directly linked? It really doesn't matter when the money comes in, only so long as it does. If we had signed van dijk in the last minute of the summer window there would NOT have been a last minute scramble to sell coutinho. Do you know why? Because it was klopps choice to keep him, klopps choice to sell him, and klopps choice to use £75 million of his budget on a single defender, which i stress again, is a world transfer record. FSG must really hate klopp and the fans.

Klopp sold coutinho because it was a disruption, anybody can see that. You live in the world of the modern football fan who views the players as assets, not human beings. He had tried to convince him and get a season out of him, and like a relationship, you can try to make it work, but if the circumstances are that toxic, it has to end for the better of both parties. How you somehow think selling coutinho is more of a disruption is just clueless, it has been said he had told the whole squad and manager on multiple occassions how much he wanted to leave, how is that healthy. The club would not have sold coutinho if the little snake had not been whining and moaning constantly since august. You saying that selling a player who has been nothing but a disruption and a distraction for half a season, will somehow further disruption because he is gone, is total rubbish. You are just making up illogical reasons to have a go at FSG. Its really quite sad.

Every single post on here for the last 5 years from you, that i have seen, is tin foil hat nonsense about the owners. Never saying how great the result was, which players are impressing you etc, just negativity towards FSG. Hell i bet you think the result against Everton was some kind of conspiracy to keep the fans onside. Your opinion is your opinion but is it so hard to talk about the football for once instead of conspiracy theories and money?

As for your last point, we have gone 17 matches unbeaten i believe, many of those without coutinho, and our win percentage is far better with coutinho out of the side than in it. The points you make, you have no evidence to suggest it, it is just plain negativity. If how you feel is true, and you believe that liverpool has been ruined and taken from the fans to the point where you physically cannot bring yourself to say anything positive about the club, i know that if that was me i would stop caring so much. What keeps me going through the rough and the smooth is watching the reds turn up at the weekend, rain or shine, regardless of who the board of directors are. This isn't a personal attack, just maybe you should lighten up and do the same.

8.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 11:53:55
Spot on AW 👏.

9.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 12:25:36
Ouch! Well said, AW.

10.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 12:42:08
Waro, if we do manage to continue to do well this season, and the owners do continue to spend more on players, will you give up this blinkered crusade, or is that against your religion?

11.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 12:51:12
And by the way, I know what the saying is but stupid is more apt I feel.

12.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 13:01:04
Waro, you've been wrong about FSG and Klopp and how we have gotten better under him from jump so you being wrong again is like saying water is wet. And when we make top 4 and beat Porto, you'll be nowhere to be found as you always show up here when we are as a team, going thru tough stuff. Sticking the boot in much? Move on, man. You seem obssessed with wanting us to fail. If you are that bent on the ownership, put your money up, make FSG an offer they can't refuse and buy the club. If you can't then move on with your continued snide remarks and wishes for our failure so you can gloat cos frankly, it's been years now you have been on and on about this. I would ask you to give it a rest BUT I know you won't.

13.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 13:02:25
Couldn't have put it better myself, AW. I've seen the odd Waro post about football, and its a shame that his football banter is crowded out by "this tin foil hat nonsense" as his non-owner related posts are enjoyable.

14.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 13:21:13
Waro is fully entitled to his opinion, that is what this site is all about. I happen to think if we don't sign anyone that it is a 50-50 chance we make the top 4. PC in footballing terms only is a massive loss.

The midfield is a big big worry for me. We also have no one of the required quality to cover the front 3. This will have to mean a change of system in some games. If we can't get the players Klopp wants we need a Gary Mac, or the German equivalent.

Let's hope Waro is wrong and I assume he hopes so too. We will only know at the end of the season whose opinions have been correct.

15.) 10 Jan 2018
10 Jan 2018 13:24:58
Anonymous wool, not a personal attack? "clueless" "tin foil hat nonsense". This is classic establishment rhetoric, try to use insults to put down the other person's point of view, thus rendering the person your attackings statement as outlandish or farcical its standard operating procedure for people peddling lies and propaganda because its gets the weak or feable minded on board with your version of events.

Now yours or anybody else's insults on here don't concern me in the slightest because you need to have respect for the person or people insulting you for it to have an impact, my only regret is I can't say what I'd like to say to you because it would be a little to hardcore for this site, so I try to stay within the parameters here so my point will be shown.

In my opinion, if the van dijk and keita deals could have been done in the summer to play at the start of the season, then coutinho would have gone and when this window has shut and keita is here or he doesn't come and nobody else signs then my opinion will then turn into fact and yours will turn to owner propaganda because you and others will spin what happened another way.

I hate the way you all continually support these owners and I accuse you of lies and propaganda but no insults, were as you resort to insults and a pack mentality to try and shout down myself and people with a similar view point, but as long as the editors are willing to show my posts I'll keep serving it up to all of you, I never back down.