29 Dec 2017 10:58:05
Maybe Ed025, but Klopp's judgement on defenders and goalkeepers is pretty bad imo. He kept an average joe like Weidenfeller as his first choice custodian at BVB for his entire tenure and MIgs is the gift that keeps on giving during Klopp's regime at LFC. Could not hurt to let someone else deal with the GK situation.

{Ed025's Note - i have said the same all all along IB, klopp needs help when it comes to defensive issues mate, he is a very stubborn guy though and i cant see him addressing the issue anytime soon mate..

1.) 29 Dec 2017
29 Dec 2017 22:37:14
He eventually replaced him with Burki whos not much better imo.

2.) 29 Dec 2017
29 Dec 2017 23:19:35
I love Klopp but he needs to start giving a damn what fans want, we can all see Migs is useless and shouldn't be starting, he indeed is been too stubborn and needs to get a grip with it, his decision to play Migs has cost us a lot of points this season. Who knows, the club shocked us by signing VVD, they may shock us by signing another GK in January but personally I'd prefer seeing Karius given a chance until the summer.

3.) 29 Dec 2017
29 Dec 2017 23:49:36
You can’t ice in to fan demands, that’s foolish. 1) just look st this site, the opinions vary so much! How could Klopp sell Henderson and at the same time give him a pay rise for being amazing? 2) he’s the one in the know not us, quite frankly fan power would ruin the team and all the hard work put in.

4.) 30 Dec 2017
30 Dec 2017 00:39:26
johnbarnesleftpeg - I agree it is foolish to ice in to fans demands BUT, he did with Karius did he not? fans destroyed Karius because of a few mistakes after, let's note, him having a broken hand and he got dropped because of the pressure - so what's his excuse with Mignolet? Yes he is the one in the know, but anybody with a brain can see Mignolet isn't the man to be in goal for us apart from Klopp.

I will say again, I love Klopp and stand by him the majority of the time but the way he is so stubborn with playing Mignolet is wrong.

Yes the site has many opinions but I think regarding Hendo, people who actually watch him play and know football well, know he's a good player and respect him, he's not getting the grief Mignolet is.

Fan power would ruin the team I agree, but Klopps Stubbornness is costing us and it needs to stop, it needed to stop a couple of years ago yet we're still here, you can back him up with this situation all you want, the majority of fans knows Migs shouldn't be in goal and it's a huge mistake by Klopp having him there.

Overall I'm chuft with how we have performed this season, but we'd of been better off without Migs in goal, that's reality.

5.) 30 Dec 2017
30 Dec 2017 04:23:15
SALAH

You want Klopp to listen the fans? Oh boy He did and why we have a problem called Mignolet. Had he stuck with Karius and not listend the fans we would be fighting for the second spot and not scrapping for the 4th. The only mistake Klopp did was to drop Karius when he would have stuck with him in his need!

6.) 30 Dec 2017
30 Dec 2017 06:38:26
And Weidenfeller's replacement Burki is even worse. No better than Migs. Klopp is the last person to be trusted on GK issues.

7.) 30 Dec 2017
30 Dec 2017 06:46:50
Harry, it wasn't the fans, it was ridiculous media criticism from idiots like Gary Neville that led to Klopp dropping Karius. It was the wrong decision either way, so I agree there.

8.) 30 Dec 2017
30 Dec 2017 07:36:42
When Karius got his chance last season he took us from top spot to virtually struggling to get top 4 in the space of about 7 games. Klopp had to rake him out whether the fans wanted it or not. As for his broken hand, he got that by punching his own defender in the back of the head instead of the ball. That says it all. I’ve got nothing against Karius personally and wanted him to be the answer when he signed but he has never looked the part when he had played. So, I can’t understand the love-in towards him.

I think we are 2 players away from a Premiership title and challenging for the Champions League on a regular basis. Obviously goalkeeper is one, as the 3 who are there are not good enough. The other is a defensive midfielder. Henderson is not a natural there and it looks like he will be one of these players who is always injured. Even if Can stays, which is very doubtful, he hasn’t got the brains or mobility to play in that position.

Now that FSG seem to have realised that the only way to make money is by being successful, let's hope that they can continue to hack Klopp in the transfer market to bring 2 quality players to the club to address these 2 positions.

{Ed001's Note - are you being serious? He kept a clean sheet in a run of games before injuries to the central defenders that saw us struggle. Nothing to do with this idiotic personal vendetta you have against one player.}

9.) 30 Dec 2017
30 Dec 2017 09:31:36
Is this the same karius that's seen us through a champions league group and topped it to boot. I think some people just want to slate just for the sake of it.

And yes the fans DID contribute to the pressure on top of pundit criticism. I saw plenty of people on here calling for him to be dropped and very few people defending him during that period.

We may never know what would have happened had klopp stuck by him but there's little point debating it now. Klopp made his preverbial bed with regard to this situation and he now needs the cohones to make the right decision. Whether that is to bring in karius now which is highly unlikely or get in someone new in the summer which is what i suspect will happen.

Where this leaves karius and ward i don't know but if klopp does bring in someone new i can see all our current keepers looking towards the exit sign for a way out.

10.) 30 Dec 2017
30 Dec 2017 09:54:06
Whatever the reason Klopp dropped Karius, it surely doesn’t continue to explain why he has not selected him in the premier league.

11.) 30 Dec 2017
30 Dec 2017 09:59:00
I’m totally serious Ed and I don’t have a vendetta against Karius. He is just not good enough and neither is Mignolet. I can remember him costing us points in quite a few games, culminating in the car-crash Bournemouth game.

Clean sheets don’t always tell the full story of a goalkeepers performance. Look at Ederson against Newcastle. He could have got that clean sheet sitting in an armchair reading the match day programme. We may have topped the Champuons League group with Karius in goal but Seville slammed 5 past him in 2 games. I agree they were not all specifically his fault but a top keeper saves at least a couple of them. That’s my point.

{Ed001's Note - if you say so but your posts are full of pathetic slagging off of the player. There is no critique of his performance just abuse of him.}

12.) 30 Dec 2017
30 Dec 2017 11:46:11
Apologies Ed1 if it comes across like that, but I would love nothing more than Karius to step up and become great. My posts are more getting at some posters on here who probably never saw him in Germany, have watched his games here where he has pulled up no trees, yet still keep putting him forward as the answer to all our problems, based on the fact that De Gea was crap in his first season and is now great, so Karius will be too. I support all Liverpool players and would never criticise him during a game but this banter page is about opinions and my opinion is that these posters are wrong. Nothing against the lad himself.

{Ed001's Note - thats ok but you are genuinely coming across like you hate the lad.}

13.) 30 Dec 2017
30 Dec 2017 13:27:21
Karius could not have done anything about any of those 5 Sevilla goals. Did u even watch the games against Sevilla? Blame our s****y midfield for letting SEvilla walk all over us but stop blaming a GK who had no chance against point blank chances that Sevilla converted.

14.) 30 Dec 2017
30 Dec 2017 13:28:11
Cheers Ed. I won’t mention it again after this. In fact, I’d rather Karius be given the shirt for all competitions until the end of the season if we don’t sign another keeper in January. That would be preferable to alternating with Mignolet as keeper rotation will hardly give VVD the best opportunity to settle in quickly.

I would never hate another human being (terrorists, paedophiles and murderers excepted) and have nothing against Karius. I hope he proves me wrong. I never had anything against Sean Dundee either but wasn’t pushing for him to be a regular.

Incidentally, last summer I had a bet with one of the Ed’s (can’t remember which one) that Mignolet would start the season as No 1. The Ed disagreed and the loser was to pay £20 to charity. If you can find out which one it was, please ask him if he has paid up.

{Ed001's Note - I don't know who that would be, or how I would find out, maybe I could ask Ed033 if he can look it up. It doesn't sound like something I would do as I don't gamble, but a charity bet is different so I can't even rule myself out when it was that long ago. If Ed033 can't figure it out, and none of the other eds remember who it was, pick a charity and I will pay them £20 anyway. I don't care if two people have an argument over who owes what from gambling but don't want a charity to miss out over someone having a poor memory!}

15.) 30 Dec 2017
30 Dec 2017 14:02:19
If it helps it was under my other name of Kloppometor, but don’t put it in if you don’t know it was you. I’ll put 50 quid in myself if Karius wins us the Champions League like Dudek.