23 Dec 2017 04:40:36
Man Utd fan here in peace. Not a judgement or criticism, just in advance, as we're hardly playing great at the moment. Genuine wonder is all

After watching the game, and a fair few others this season, it's obvious the goalkeeping situation is in major need of addressing. This leads me to my question:

Given the defence and the way that Klopp has the team set up to be open, is that the reason why you struggled to find a top top keeper?
Let's be honest about the back 4.

LB you have an unproven project in Robertson, the awful barring a few games this season Moreno or Milner who is a midfielder
RB you have a green Centeback in Gomez, a potential right wing youth player in TAA and Clyne (no words needed)
CB isn't quite as bad but be honest, how many would get into a decent Champions League team? Klavan is a decent 3rd or 4th option, Lovren looks a shadow of the player from Southampton and Mario has the acceleration and turning circle of an HGV

Though a good keeper will help this all, and Robertson/ Gomes/ TAA could still come good down the line, are they looking and thinking that it's a poisoned chalice being between the sticks? The A grade keepers are no go's (only 5 of them anyway in my opinion) so that leaves the next tier spread between all of the other top European clubs.

Who do you think, realistically, would come to you with the current defence that's in the top end bracket (proven A or B class) that you sorely need?

1.) 23 Dec 2017
23 Dec 2017 04:47:51
Matip not Mario. Stoopid auto correct 😂.

2.) 23 Dec 2017
23 Dec 2017 08:18:08
De Gea ;)

{Ed025's Note - you wish smp..

3.) 23 Dec 2017
23 Dec 2017 09:29:19
Utd fan, I see what you are saying. However, you have to understand how we play and Klopp's ethos from the inside to have a better grasp of what Klopp is trying to do. Defensively, Klop believe that the whole team must defend as soon as the ball is lost. This is why Firmino is very important in his system as he defends from the front hence, stopping the oppo from playing out from the back or we retreat into a deep shell if the press does not work from there. Also, Klopp does not believe in just playing a traditional DM as he believes that playiong a double pivot in midfield say Hendo/ Keita combo, has the dynamism to both break up play and launch attacks at the same time. A Matic would not work in our system as he is too slow and not dynamic enuff inthe high tempo system we play in, for example.

As for the defence, it will definitely help if we have better individual CB's BUT for right now, Klopp has made the tweaks necessary to makes us hard to penetrate (12 shots concede in 9 games is stellar by any account) while at the same time not sacrificing who we are as a team: on the front foot. Klavan and Lovren tho not great individually, have forged a great understanding of late and it is showing as the progress is there for all to see at least before last night.

GK wise, we can do better obviously BUT there are no top GK's out there available as they are all taken so people banging on about getting a top GK then proposing crap GK's like Butland or Hart, are just nonsense. Our young defenders are getting exp. and coming good so no qualms there BUT the individual errors are still there to be ironed out long term. We have a solid one in Karius who just needs more games at this level to show if he can do the job or not. This is what it is, as I see it.

4.) 23 Dec 2017
23 Dec 2017 10:00:08
Karius. Give him a chance and he will come good with time.
Oblak was awful in his first season at Atletico and was replaced by Moya.
Ter Stegen had a torrid 2 seasons before finding his feet at Barca.
Same for DDG
Can we LFC fans not show the same faith and patience for Karius?

5.) 24 Dec 2017
24 Dec 2017 23:11:30
I wouldn't change the way we play for the world, I love the way Klopp plays and it doesn't matter where we play he goes to win, not sure there is a place in football for managers like Maureen, Pullis, Allardyce, Rafa, it's out dated and boring, love watching the way teams play like us and City, wouldn't change it for the world.