16 Dec 2017 19:16:09
Seeing a bit of discussion about pep and thought id throw my two pence in. For me mourinho and pep are better managers than klopp. They go out and buy a replacement where there is a weakness, they may have the money to do so but they do priortise where they are weak. Klopp however in my opinion is a better coach, he works with what he has (sometimes blinkered i admit) but he tends to priortise moulding players with the right attributes to his vision rather than just going and buying a player that slots right in.

Pep is doing a good job at city, yes he has plenty of money but he still needs to get his team winning.

I am still thorughly behind klopp and always knew it would be a rocky ride to get us back to challenging. Something i believe he will get us doing but is only going to get tougher with the way that city team is at the minute.

1.) 16 Dec 2017
16 Dec 2017 19:30:13
Pep does a pretty good job of coaching too. He is getting the best out of Sterling and Sane consistently. KDB is next level. 52 points after 18 games is incredible in modern day football.

Klopp tried to sign players he needed if reports are true (VVD and Keita) so he knew we needed them but didn't get them over the line. definitely costing us. Not sure it was about wrong priorities more about lack of professionalism in transfer window. Hopefully that lesson has been learnt and we can strengthen in Jan and get top 4 again.

2.) 16 Dec 2017
16 Dec 2017 20:01:56
Jordz, unfortunately he illegally approached VVD so he wrecked that one all on his own.

3.) 17 Dec 2017
16 Dec 2017 23:47:51
Jordz, I agree with you overall however, Klopp has changed a bit. Yes, he believes in coaching and moulding players as that is how he started his career at Mainz taking over from his mentor Wolfgang Frank, an Arrigo Sacchi disciple. Frank taught him that you can beat any team if you are meticulous in your training, tactics and preparations cos to him at times, Having your best 11 is better than having 11 of the best players and clearly, that ethos has served him well with the success he has had.

Now the diff. is that he now has more spending power compared to his Bundesliga days so he now has no prob bidding or willing to drop 150m for VVD and Keita if he feels they will improve his team. Pep and Mou do the same thing as well as we see with the mony both have spent. The diff. is that Klopp has his way of recruiting as he will no longer settle for stop gaps so he will rather coach the team up to try to make up for the player he is missing rather than sign one he does not believe in. I'd rather that than just buying for buying sake, something both Pep and Mou do.

4.) 17 Dec 2017
17 Dec 2017 02:15:13
People love to slate pep saying ‘he manages only big team’ ‘he has to spend money’ look at him right now compared to mourinho, ones breaking records, top of the league by 14 points playing incredible football. The their takes cheap shots in interviews, is anti football. They’re both successful but there is o my one I’d want. There is a reason all the big clubs want pep, because he’s quality. Messi credtited a lot of his success to pep. Comparing managers is hard tho, I’m sure there is probably some random non league or manager of a Latvian team who works wonders but nobody knows. Slcertain mabagers for certain jobs and roles.

5.) 17 Dec 2017
17 Dec 2017 04:04:49
Irrespective of comparisons to Mourinho Pep has had trunk loads of cash and world class players at his disposal in every management job he has been in. Now I'm not saying he is a bad manager, as you cannot really judge the quality of a manager when they have had half a billion to spend, but that he has always had everything gift-wrapped for him. I mean I think a lot of managers in world football would be able win things with the players Guardiola has had in their team you know? It is not 'genius' to get players that good winning in my opinion.

6.) 17 Dec 2017
17 Dec 2017 08:51:23
Perhaps not Seano, but he's not just winning, he's breaking records in his second season. He broke records at Barcelona. You want someone who doesn't win anything for 8, 9years or a record breaking manager? Someone who in 2 seasons can take you from mediocrity to the best of a generation.

{Ed001's Note - mediocrity? City were not mediocre though. They were the most expensively assembled team in football history before Pep arrived and spent half a billion on the team. They had been winning leagues regularly in recent years. How is that mediocrity?}

7.) 17 Dec 2017
17 Dec 2017 09:54:08
They were mediocre in the champions league, usually finishing 3rd or 4th in their group.
They were very poor the season Leicester won the league. Not just in terms of results but they were playing poor football.