10 Dec 2017 19:57:36
It was touched on briefly in the live chat, and apologies Ed’s as I know it’s not strictly Liverpool related, but how do we help out referees? They have one view point with a little bit of help from the linesman and 4th official but 9 time’s out of ten it is down to them and they have only a few seconds to make a decision. We, as fans, get plenty of angles so why can’t another official have this footage to give them a hand, they still won’t get all decisions correct but it will help and wouldn’t slow the game down.
Just interested to see other posters opinions on how we help the men in the middle.

{Ed002's Note - This is the difficulty of moving to a video assistant - where do you draw the line without killing the flow of the game. I am in the don't give them any help, suck it up and move on camp.}

1.) 10 Dec 2017
10 Dec 2017 20:04:35
Agree with Ed002 🤝.

2.) 10 Dec 2017
10 Dec 2017 20:15:38
Agree Ron, human factor is part of the game, years ago we didn’t know if the ref was right or wrong afterthought game and we just got on with it. Today we cost ourselves, Mane squares the ball it’s 2-0 game over. That’s the weakest Everton team I’ve ever seen, we should have buried them but didn’t so suck it up.

3.) 10 Dec 2017
10 Dec 2017 20:20:55
Agree 100% with Ed.

4.) 10 Dec 2017
10 Dec 2017 20:29:31
Agreed ed I don’t want the game slowing down it was more just someone watching the game from a far, and constantly in contact with the ref rather than the review system in cricket as that just wouldn’t work.

{Ed001's Note - it is not working anywhere they are trying VAR, it has been a mess.}

5.) 10 Dec 2017
10 Dec 2017 20:42:12
Fair enough Ed001, it’ll be interesting to see how it works in the fa cup game with palace.

{Ed001's Note - have a look at the Bundesliga, it has been shambolic there, though sometimes it has worked, it has just stalled the game for so long it makes it a mess.}

6.) 10 Dec 2017
10 Dec 2017 20:58:15
since it seems like everytime someone scores, we have to do a 30 sec dance, hug your teammates for another 30 secs and shout with the fans for another 30, couldn't we have a minute after the goal is scored to review whether there are any misdemeanors, similar to the NFL where (and for football only) scoring plays are reviewed, no challenges or booth reviews for anything unless it's a goal, penalty decisions? Give the penalty and then look at it on the video, the worry is it'd then slow down the game but after a goal/ giving a penalty the game is dead anyway, what do you think eds?

{Ed001's Note - that would be ok, just for goals but that is such a small part of the problem that people want fixed that I don't see it would be worth it. Just man up, refs make mistakes, as do players and manager, just get on with it when it goes against you.}

7.) 10 Dec 2017
10 Dec 2017 21:52:20
I always like to look at a refs decision and see what we as a team did wrong for that situation to happen and what we did wrong in the build up to the incident. It doesn't apply to all situations obviously, but if we look at today, either Mane hit it behind Firmino (sloppy pass) or Firmino was backheeling it to no one in red, either way had Mane passed better or Firmino did something else, that penalty may never happened. No point in blaming ref, blame the things you can control.

8.) 10 Dec 2017
10 Dec 2017 22:25:27
Spot on, Welsh. Mane squares that ball, there are Ox, Solanke and Salah waiting to tap it in and there is no way he misses all of them. That is what we can control and his selfishness cost us the game. Not the pen, lineup, rotation, or the ref even tho, he was poor. We score there, no issue, 3 points we move on.

9.) 11 Dec 2017
11 Dec 2017 06:01:25
What we can control is Lovren acting like a central defender and actually clearing the ball with his head instead of watching it bounce behind him.

10.) 11 Dec 2017
11 Dec 2017 08:11:08
Got to say I'm one of the video ref fans. Your right, it will slow down the game but there is wonderful drama to be had in rugby waiting for a result from the tv official. Unfortunately simulation has surpassed conventional methods of refereeing and the fabled man behind the goal has merited little success. And just how far does it go before there is too much? Start with offsides, hand balls and penalties and play to the whistle.

{Ed002's Note - To some extent rugby is already a stop start game and the number of scores is higher than football.}

11.) 11 Dec 2017
11 Dec 2017 11:32:21
I totally agree there ed2 but I'm suggesting that the video ref can possibly add to the game. Yep it's a dreadful thought to the purists but in fairness, football is the greatest game in the world because it changes with the times. Who would have thought blatter splatter would actually help the game? Let alone the inclusion of no back pass etc. Yep, the old silver goal didn't really work but it was attempted. I'm only suggesting we shouldn't be afraid to try something new.

{Ed002's Note - Traditionally various cup competitions have been used to try something new - moving offside to be in line with the penalty area rather than half way, kick ins instead of throw ins etc.. My rear remains the stop-start nature it would cause. It has been discussed on and off for many years and I would think eventually you will see it being used on a regular basis - and then the argument would be there to expand it.}