Stoke City v Liverpool - A Liverpool Perspective

30 Nov 2017 09:28:36
{Ed's Note - we have posted a new article entitled, Stoke City v Liverpool - A Liverpool Perspective


1.) 30 Nov 2017
30 Nov 2017 10:17:50
Great review Ed. Only thing i disagree with is that Mignolet should've seen red. Don't get me wrong, it would've been great to have Karius in goal for the next 3 games! However in 2016 the IFAB changed the rules regarding the last man scenario.

It is now no longer a guaranteed red card if you deny a goal scoring opportunity. Accidental fouls preventing a goal scoring chance (where the fouling player has made an honest attempt to play the ball but simply mistimed it) are now by football law, only a caution ie. A yellow card.

The only time preventing a goal scoring chance is a red card under the new rules is if the foul was a deliberate attempt to play the man, grappling/ shirt pulling, serious foul play or violent conduct.

As Mignolet was attempting to play the ball, but accidentally played the player, by law it is not a red card, even if Gomez is considered too far away to make a challenge. Personally i think he was close enough to get a challenge in any way and Diouf was forced wide onto his weaker foot so i don't even consider it to be a clear goal scoring opportunity. But i can see why others would consider it to be so. Either way, under new ruling a yellow card is spot on.

Unfortunately, this rule change has not been well publicised and Managers, players and pundits still haven't grasped it even though they will have been made aware of it. The ref got it absolutely bang on by the letter of the law.


2.) 30 Nov 2017
30 Nov 2017 10:49:35
Great review, can't disagree with any of that. I know Henderson has been poor of late and taken a lot of stick but I just don't see what wijnaldum has done to earn a place ahead of him. Completely anonymous imo and offers very very little.


3.) 30 Nov 2017
30 Nov 2017 12:47:28
MK I understand what you are saying. But have you seen his interview on sky? Migs basically says he was right to take out diouf because if not they score and it's 1 v 1. Basically he just stated publicly he meant to take him out. If the tackle wasn't stupid enough saying that was.


4.) 30 Nov 2017
30 Nov 2017 13:02:37
I never listen to post match interviews. Football players are not very intelligent in general and most of them are foreign. I think it very unwise to read too much into comments made by someone who doesn't speak English as a first language.

Mignolet has clearly tried to win the ball, but got it all wrong and wiped the player out. So he's trying to mask his poor decision and timing by stating that he did the right thing. In the moment, he was watching the ball and simply got it wrong. In hindsight though, he is obviously trying to deflect criticism by making out what he did was the right thing.


5.) 30 Nov 2017
30 Nov 2017 13:11:17
MK, you're in denial to try and hammer home your point.
Mignolet has admitted he tried to take out Diouf. A deliberate foul, red card.


6.) 30 Nov 2017
30 Nov 2017 13:45:36
He hasn't admitted it. He said taking out Diouf was the right thing to do. That is a bit different to admitting he wasn't even trying to play the ball. Totally different in fact. You can clearly see he goes for the ball from the replays. This just smacks of people trying to use anything for their Mignolet agenda. Twisting the words of a post match interview carried out in a second language to Mignolet, is totally unfair. I'd rather go by what i saw with my own eyes.

Mignolet has plenty of genuine issues without people even needing to shout about this incident and micro-analyse it. At the end of the day, the ref has followed the laws of the game and made the correct decision so I'm not going to bother discussing it again until somebody can find an active law of the game which categorically defines Mingolet's offence as worthy of a red card.


7.) 30 Nov 2017
30 Nov 2017 15:01:15
We won 3 0, Salah scored yet again, yes Migs tackle is a talking point, but just consider how many times players from both Manchester clubs get away with so much,
and just enjoy our big win, that keeps us right up there in the mix,
plus lots of praise for Salah, and not just from Liverpool fans,
I think cos the man is so humble, yet so brilliant, we are bringing in new fans .


8.) 30 Nov 2017
30 Nov 2017 17:19:19
Good review ed01, and mk agen you are wrong even big dermot says it was a red. Also I have a friend that refs Sunday league ( Sunday league yes but the rules are the same) also said he should of walked. Only inside of the penalty area your views come into play otherwise it is a RED card fella.

{Ed001's Note - thank you Hb.}


9.) 30 Nov 2017
30 Nov 2017 17:37:50
To me, it was a red BUT Happy is correct. We won, kept a clean sheet and moved up the table. Enjoy that and leave the petty things to the rival fans who are feeling the burn.


10.) 01 Dec 2017
30 Nov 2017 19:36:32
Great review ed.

{Ed001's Note - cheers J.}