28 Nov 2017 08:16:50
Who are these bunch of defenders? Man u couldn't find one, City couldn't find one, Spurs didn't find a good one.

1.) 28 Nov 2017
28 Nov 2017 08:44:23
United did found one in Bailley. Moreover they have a DM infront of their defense as a protection. Spurs already had the best core in the league plus they play Dier as a protection. Chelsea’s bought one and a DM in the summer. City are an exception, But they are so strong going forward teams are afraid to attack them!
We on the other hand neither bought one not signed a DM to cover our defense!

2.) 28 Nov 2017
28 Nov 2017 09:04:11
Well said Harry.

3.) 28 Nov 2017
28 Nov 2017 11:35:09
This time, I'm with Harry.

There is definitely a shortage of good centre backs available, but Mo Salah and Naby Keita weren't available either. So what did we do? Move heaven and earth to make a deal happen and break our transfer record twice.

There was £50m available to sign Van Dijk if we hadn't enraged Southampton.

Nobody can sit there and tell me for definite that wouldn't have landed Koulibaly, Christenson, Rudiger, De Vrij, Glik, Hoedt, Giminez, Bonucci, Howedes etc if we'd shown a serious interest. Availability is irrelevant. Coutinho wasn't available but big transfer fees and contracts change minds. We made no concerted effort to sign anybody other than Van Dijk and that is quite simply, negligence.

Money talks. We had money. Klopp and the rest of the people involved made a costly mistake.

{Ed025's Note - agreeing with harry MK...wonders will never cease.. :)

4.) 28 Nov 2017
28 Nov 2017 11:42:54
As the saying goes Ed025; even a closet Chelsea fan is right twice a day 😉.

{Ed025's Note - broken clocks might MK but im not sure about closet chelsea fans mate.. :)

5.) 28 Nov 2017
28 Nov 2017 12:09:00
Harry spot on there.

6.) 28 Nov 2017
28 Nov 2017 13:13:18
Been saying this for ages, Klopp not being interested in chasing any other CB, s does not mean they were and are not available. Who’d have though Neymar was available until PSG blew football transfers into orbit. As MK said we were told There was no chance of getting Naby but we did. I put a decent list in before the window closed including some of the above and was told they would be impossible to get, what nonsense, how does anyone know unless you make the approach.
Then we had the hourly abuse of certain fans who asked for a midfielder to help protect the defense seeing as the manager wouldn’t take anyone other than VVD. The amount of abuse one particular fan took was unbelievable, how could anyone doubt the great Klopp. Now I read a lot of the same guys agreeing with that fan.
We have a scintillating attack up there with City’s but unfortunately we still haven’t improved the defense. With Klopp being lauded for our attacking prowess then surely he should be getting a kick in the arse for his negligence in defense and goal keeping, fair is fair after all.
A good lesson for all here, don’t abuse other fans for their opinions especially when they explain them so well, coz you never know when you could be eating humble pie.
Let’s all just hope that the management team can get us to January and then hopefully make a change or two that stops the capitulations and gets us much harder to score against.

7.) 28 Nov 2017
28 Nov 2017 13:36:56
If the club had made more efforts to bring in a CB, we would have got one. This obsession with VVD needs to stop. We made a pathetic offer for Koulibaly that should have been followed up with an improved offer, and we would have had one of the best CB's in the world at our club now. Manolas, De VRij, Gimenez etc. All attainable options if the money was stumped up and considerably cheaper than the overrated VVD.

8.) 28 Nov 2017
28 Nov 2017 14:02:23
its not the clubs mistake, if someone has to be blamed its Kloop. he failed to recognise the urgent need to make the defence stronger. he put all his eggs in one basket and chased only VVD and that to illegaly. he was the one you decieded to give Ming and Lovren new contract when we should have been finding their replacement a year or do back. the club as a whole is behind their manager and supports him completly, it is Kloop who has done all this mess.
he is one who decieded that we do not need a decicated Dm. he is the one who is playing player out of position. Hendo is not Dm, Wini is not box to box, milner is not a Cm. i will agree with each and everyone of you that if you show ambition and convince any player will come to us. and for **** sake we are LFC all we need to do is sell them on the project we have. Kloop has to take a lot of blame

9.) 28 Nov 2017
28 Nov 2017 15:54:13
I think VVD could be the final piece of the Man City jigsaw, get VVD in and replace him with Kompany and they'll be some force. Probably end up at Liverpool, but City would be a sensible move for him. Guaranteed Champions League football every season. Higher salary than Liverpool would offer and will challenge for major trophies.

Saying that I'd bet there will be several top clubs trying to sign him this summer. Barcelona, Real Madrid, City, Chelsea, Juventus and others. Even though his personality is questionable at best.

10.) 28 Nov 2017
28 Nov 2017 18:10:11
Klopp may want VVD BUT he is littered with flaws. Just look at the las t game at Anfield. Had any of our CB's played the way VVD had, he would have been rightly slaughtered for it. But cos it's VVD, he mostly got a pass.

As for CB's coming or not coming in, We will never know why one was not gotten, IMO. De Vrij was just coming from injury and is known to be injury prone so I get that. KK was a good shout and we did bid for him BUT did not follow up with another one as it was not enough. We don't know why that did not happen. The likes of Manolas (per Ed01) was seen as walking red card. Personally, not sold on Rudiger as he is not the leader we need as Azpi is the leader in Chelsea.

All in all, I'm with Ed01 on this one. VVD was who Klopp wanted and would not settle for stop gaps. We can disagree on that BUT I understand his thinking. Matip was a stop gap and we are seeing how that is working out now. Spurs' Sanchez was not the answer either as we can see as he is a young player still learning. We don't need those cos we already have Gomez learning as we speak. People can slate the CB's till their blue in the face. Our issues currently are no longer there atm.

They are in midfield where we are out of sorts and 3 (Wiji, Cou and the bang awful Milner) are not pulling their weight, leaving Hendo to do all their jobs for them and offer no cover to the defence. Doesn't matter who you have at CB, if you have poor performing mids like we have now, you'll still be screwed.

11.) 29 Nov 2017
29 Nov 2017 06:49:20
"Kloop" 😄
Sack him/ her.