21 Nov 2017 20:49:10
MY half time thoughts, we’ve played a different game today we've been smart, we look solid they’ve gotten through twice and dealt with it, they’re not a bad team either. I’m not listening to the BT opinion of Sevilla being all over the place, that’s only true as of the third goal, the lack of a man on the posts is a choice not them being poor. we've not just passed the ball for the sake of t we’ve been clinicall. Joe Gomez looks a star in the making firmino is such a hardworking/ smart player and has deserved his goals. I think we’ve been excellent I don’t think they’ve been particularly poo I think we’ve made them look that bad. Proud of the performance so far we’ll done the lads, more of the same the same second half. The o my thing I will say is it can only benefit us defensively if we stick with karius game in game out and let the defence settle Witt him behind them. I’m getting bored of the Spanish ‘feel the wind and roll over’ though.

{Ed0333's Note - And I saw Coutinho laughing celebrating the third goal. Dreamland.


1.) 21 Nov 2017
21 Nov 2017 21:04:37
and now we are getting destroyed! have we played more then 2 passes?! fear is real!


2.) 21 Nov 2017
21 Nov 2017 21:13:27
How you feeling now? Think the players did what we all did and think the game was a foregone conclusion - been sleeping second half and are getting punished for it, just hoping we can hold out to be honest.


3.) 21 Nov 2017
21 Nov 2017 21:39:26
Moreno must be on a secret contract with Sevila.


4.) 21 Nov 2017
21 Nov 2017 21:40:46
Spoke too soon. Only Liverpool can pull that off tonight.


5.) 21 Nov 2017
21 Nov 2017 21:47:00
Klopp has to sign some decent defenders or he's on his way out of Liverpool. To many times our defence has collapsed now.


6.) 21 Nov 2017
21 Nov 2017 21:50:46
I don’t think the defense did bad. The only culprit today was Moreno. He really let us down big time. He is a very poor player.


7.) 21 Nov 2017
21 Nov 2017 21:51:37
Ref was a joke tonight as well though, never seen that many decisions given to a side - we were awful second half no excuses but the ref gave Sevuilla every chance possible to get back into it. Horrible night, horrible performance, I thought we had turned a corner.


8.) 21 Nov 2017
21 Nov 2017 22:01:08
In all honesty this was our own doing, two errors from Moreno who is an emotional fella so maybe playing him in this game wasn’t too wise, anyhow two mistakes (the pen being harsh I believe) our us ubder all of thisnpressure. It wasn’t so long ago conceding a goal didn’t effect us we just thought ‘well score 2’ but last 6 months or so when we concede one we panic.


9.) 21 Nov 2017
21 Nov 2017 22:02:46
The defence was a shambles second half no leadership no organisation. Henderson the captain not for me. I'm sorry I just don't rate him just my opinion.


10.) 21 Nov 2017
21 Nov 2017 22:04:08
Moreno should have been taken off when he was booked, he let us down in the Final against Sevilla and again tonight, he has to be applauded for the effort he puts in but sadly it's all too much for him some times.
Red Tag.


11.) 21 Nov 2017
21 Nov 2017 22:04:40
Another headache for Klopp now. What to do with Moreno. I hope it’s just a once off, which I doubt very much. I personally believe that we jumped harshly I concluding that he has turned the corner. It’s now clear that if we have to make the jump to the next level we need to spend big on the left back position as well. Big ups to Lovren today. He displayed well.


12.) 21 Nov 2017
21 Nov 2017 22:11:58
Lovren played well I thought. The rest of the defence all over the place. But the main problem is the central midfield, what a joke. The can't keep the ball and they are mentally weak. Henderson a captain what a joke.


13.) 21 Nov 2017
21 Nov 2017 22:12:56
We have no one to blame but ourselves and not the ref. The first two goals were individual errors and for the third there were at least 4 Seville players in the centre of the box with no red shirt near them so a team error imo. These collapses and last minute goals happens too regularly to be a fluke, we lack leaders and appear to be mentally weak. Once we concede Klopp seems unable to change things, but its unclear if its him not changing or not having any leaders on the pitch to take ownership of the situation. The positive was the first half display and the point. I look forward to hearings Ed01's thoughts once he's calmed down like rest of us :)


14.) 21 Nov 2017
21 Nov 2017 22:20:55
Gomez had a very poor game not just Moreno. It was only because Seville didn't score from his mistakes that he will not get blamed. But he was poor.


15.) 21 Nov 2017
21 Nov 2017 22:22:41
Toe I think Klopp did change it. Couts was a passenger and Moreno had completely lost his head and allowed them back into the game. After the substitutions we calmed the crowd down and looked like getting over the line. The last goal was a corner that should’ve been avoided but that happens to all teams.
The fact is if we had a decent left back they wouldn’t have scored any goals, the stadium would’ve been quiet after 65 minutes and we could even have got more goals.
Moreno is prone to this, we know it and he obviously hasn’t changed.


16.) 21 Nov 2017
21 Nov 2017 22:35:02
Ings i hear what you say, but to me his changes came too late or had little effect. what is clear is that we lack leaders when the chips are down. I'm a massive Klopp fan, but imo he didn't make the correct changes. Firmino, who worked his socks off was gone and could not hold up the ball, Moreno should have been subbed earlier as it was clear his head had gone after the first error, may be he was trying too hard because it was seville? why was nothing done to stop banega controlling the game, i know easier said than done. still a point tho and we move on.


17.) 21 Nov 2017
21 Nov 2017 22:39:30
we all know that we collapsed 2nd half, we need a top left back, but we still had two very good chances late on also, the ref did favour the home team, even playing for six mins when it was four mins injury time, but we should have won this game, Firmino was class but was out on his feet the last 20 mins, maybe he should have been subbed,
all is not bad, we are still top of the group, and last group game is at home, we will still top the group and go thru .


18.) 21 Nov 2017
21 Nov 2017 23:06:44
We keep saying is a long season but some people on here think if you play 10 decent games in a row you suddenly become a decent player. Life and football is not like that

Henderson has never been a good enough captain and never will be
Moreno is a poor defender
Klavan is just poor
GW is either good or st1t and this season mainly the second.


19.) 21 Nov 2017
21 Nov 2017 23:37:23
Seville are a good team,

When was the last time they shipped 3 goals at home in a match unanswered by half time.

On a positive note at half time I thought we wouldn't hear anymore gripes about Firminos role in the team for a while, he was immense yet again!