23 Oct 2017 09:06:33
SO time to try and direct where it all went wrong yesterday.

Firstly all goals were soft and down to individual errors, surely when people make the same mistakes their place is in jeopardy, if I kept making mistakes in my job I'd probably be sacked.

Migs does not help himself, everyone including our defence is asking for him to be decisive and when he is, I. e. For their fourth goal he makes an error, so how can anyone trust him. When he calls for it in the future the defence will still feel they need to clear it just in case.

We miss lallana big time, his press makes so much space and that's why we are not doing as well in these big games.

Hendo, wiji, Milner and Can are all too similar in what they want to achieve which is get the ball of quickly to someone else, when they all play together it results in passing between them.

Apart from the first 20 spurs were not all that special we just made them look it with our error strewn performance.

So where do we go from here? I would have to say bring in Ward for the next game, Karius has his oppurtunity in the CL so give Ward a good run of games but as fans we can't get on his back after one error, he's young and it will happen but of we back him like Utd did with de gea I believe we may have he position sorted for years.

As for Lovren he clearly isn't match fit and Klopp clearly feels an unfit lovren is the best we have in our ranks which is worrying on so many levels. I'm still not sure gomez is ready to be the answer either, which leaves us with Klavan, Can or an U21 CB. Not a lot of options.

In midfield play two of wiji, hendo, can. Let Gruijic be the third who can burst into the box.

The hardest thing is when your in bad form it is even harder to take risks as if they back fire it is even more pressure. But this is where they earn their money and I'm expecting a huge performance against Huddersfield.

{Ed001's Note - why do you say Lovren is unfit? It was not fitness that made him take up position on the wrong side of Kane. It was not a lack of fitness that made him completely misjudge a simple header either.}


1.) 23 Oct 2017
23 Oct 2017 09:38:00
Lovren is not unfit, the guy said himself he has been totally fit since he was rested for one of Croatias games and has trained normally for over a week. Mignolet and him are complete liabilities, Matip is not a world beater but i have seen him have many decent games compared to Mignolet or Klavan or Lovren who strike fear into the rest of the team and confidence into our opponents.


2.) 23 Oct 2017
23 Oct 2017 09:54:00
We need two new centre halves, Matip is weak and quiet and Lovren is just Lovren! We need twp dominant centre halves to just DEFEND, two people who JG can watch and learn off. He’ll get nowhere being an understudy to our current two! Mignolet has had more than his fair share of chances, him and Lovren combined were at fault for the majority if not all the goals. First goal was Lovren’s fault then Mignolet was weak, letting Kane go straight through him! Donkey Lovren again for Son’s goal unable to do what he should be able to do best. judge the flight of a ball. third one, ok poor header by Matip but where was the big shout from our GK? Should be an easy ball for Mignolet but again his incompetence let us down. Kane’s second goal was again our world class goalkeeper’s fault as his weak attempt at a punch (flap) fell straight to Vertonghan! You get nowhere with a dodgy Gk and centre halves, the three positions you’d expect to be the loudest players are like mice in our team. how long can klopp make excuses for these 3?

{Ed001's Note - sorry but you cannot excuse Matip's header. It was not just the fact that it was weak, it was that he had no pressure on him and had time to aim it, so he chose to aim it right at the worst possible place. That is as bad as anything Lovren and Mignolet did. The 3 of them are awful defenders.}


3.) 23 Oct 2017
23 Oct 2017 10:21:59
Totally agree Ed, I wasn’t trying to excuse his header, that header just sums up what Matip is about, but it shouldn’t have come to that if that clown between the sticks opened his gob. I don’t rate Matip one bit he’s like Bambi on Ice, him or Lovren shouldn’t be anywhere near our squad along with Mignolet. It’s insulting to think of the great players before who have played in their positions and now we get served this dross every week. have we really fallen that much? I know player bashing isn’t liked on this site and I don’t usually like to see it myself but this is well and truely justified.


4.) 23 Oct 2017
23 Oct 2017 10:49:15
Apologies ed001, I thought he had longstanding issues with his back hence why he was substituted. Issues he has had all season. I agree with what you say that most defenders would of dealt with both his errors.

Not for a second am I trying to defend him, excuse the pun, I don't think he should be anywhere near the 11 nor should matip, but the fact that Klopp put Lovren in to start shows how weak we are at cb.

This issue is it's what we have until January at the very least.


5.) 23 Oct 2017
23 Oct 2017 10:49:15
Apologies ed001, I thought he had longstanding issues with his back hence why he was substituted. Issues he has had all season. I agree with what you say that most defenders would of dealt with both his errors.

Not for a second am I trying to defend him, excuse the pun, I don't think he should be anywhere near the 11 nor should matip, but the fact that Klopp put Lovren in to start shows how weak we are at cb.

This issue is it's what we have until January at the very least.

{Ed001's Note - had being the operative word as he himself has said mate.}


6.) 23 Oct 2017
23 Oct 2017 11:22:41
Fair enough ed001 I thought it was similar to hendo's heel problem that was longstanding. My bad!

{Ed001's Note - Lovren said he was fit now and no longer suffering. I can only trust he was being honest, though the club can be quite secretive. I have often thought football should take a leaf out of some of the US sports lead in this area. They have to declare injuries etc. It would be better for the players if things were more public, honest and open, as well as the fans.}