11 Oct 2017 19:51:45
Ed 02.

No intention of creating a hate campaign against anyone.

Klopp doesn't fancy Can, end of story, other managers will hence Juves interest.

Also no hate campaign against the owners, they are business men who bought the club to sell, there is nothing wrong with that, and don't worry Ed 02 i won't list the potential investors.

Cheers

Macca.

{Ed002's Note - I understand that is and was not the intention Macca. I am sure that you were not looking to solicit a hate campaign against Can but that is what we now have, regardless of it previously being explained that he was uncomfortable with his position with Klopp and wanted the opportunity to play at the highest level. This is down to your saying he not 100% and wants out - albeit true but in the big scheme of things nothing new.. If you weren't previously a member of the Beatles maybe folks would not be quite so keen to press the button. As for the owners, I understand what you are saying but I have a little dispute. The plan was always to buy, improve, sell. I am not aware of any intent to buy and sell right away. At the right price, to the right owners, the club can be sold (nominally true of at least half of the EPL sides). We should probably take the time to sit down and talk about al of this sometime. I am sure you are not being disruptive but folks see what you say as gospel. I really appreciate your input and regardless of my desire to shake you occasionally know it is of a great help.}

1.) 11 Oct 2017
11 Oct 2017 22:00:05
Good post Ed002.

2.) 11 Oct 2017
11 Oct 2017 22:03:53
On the contrary ed02, i thought people may now understand why he hasn't signed, more to do with Klopp than Can, so they may have taken back there hate towards him.

And that was exactly FSG mandate to improve before they try to sell, and they have done a great job in maximising there investment . that's what good business men do.

Would love to have a chat sometime .

Cheers

Macca.

{Ed002's Note - Thanks for the reply Macca.}

3.) 11 Oct 2017
11 Oct 2017 22:50:38
Ed002, is Macca really John Lennon then?

Peace man

Baz.

{Ed002's Note - More of a Ringo. Except he doesn’t wear glasses nor have a humongous nose.}

4.) 11 Oct 2017
11 Oct 2017 23:21:56
Macca - unfortunately you've over-estimated the ability of many liverpool fans to process your insight as exactly that insight rather than fuel to add to their own agendas against certain players they want to hate on! :)

regards selling, I'm totally with ed2 on the interpretation of everything (although I'm sure you're interpretation is based more on facts! ). And I think this really needs to be understood by all of us so we don't fall into an unnecessary hate campaign against FSG.

If FSG were sitting idle just waiting for the value of the club to rise and then sell on for a quick buck then I could reason with the hate. If we were truly buying young players to ONLY sell on for profit then I could reason with the hate. but that is simply not the case, and I wish some fans could get out of their own heads on this!

5.) 12 Oct 2017
12 Oct 2017 00:11:01
Good posts - don’t see why anyone would hate on Can who’s just looking for a consistent place where he can be confident of his long term position in a side. If Klopp doesn’t see him fitting his desired system, doesn’t make him crap, just not the right kind of player for us (just like Vardy or Benteke aren’t crap but not right for Liverpool) .

Likewise anyone who thinks FSG should be replaced by someone who’s got a billion or two to spend, isn’t viewing the club as an investment but just happy to spunk money on players for the joy of singing YNWA is kidding themselves. no-one at this level is anything but an investor. If they are a responsible one and try to do the right thing for the longer term future of the club then that’s not to be taken lightly, and IMO seems to be FSG. witness Newcastle, Villa and numerous others for alternative realities.

6.) 12 Oct 2017
12 Oct 2017 00:19:11
I'm a potential buyer, if anyone wanted to know one.

7.) 12 Oct 2017
12 Oct 2017 00:23:50
The above conversation between Macca and ed 02 is what makes this site so intriguing. I'll never engage in a hate campaign against any player or the owners, we'll all still be here after any player moves on and the owners won't be here for ever either. FSG have definitely took us forward the new main stand also
they're certainly delivering and targeting a better standard of player. I don't blame Can or Couthinho for wanting to move on. Can would have fulfilled his contract and Couthinho will command a huge transfer fee both players have had great moments in a red shirt and made me happy in their time here.

8.) 12 Oct 2017
12 Oct 2017 01:47:28
But what you're keen on buying Benny may get you into trouble 😊.

9.) 12 Oct 2017
12 Oct 2017 07:36:07
Good posts.

Can has never really consistently shown his ability. He is clearly a great player but how often has he stepped up and shown it.

I think a move is a good thing for him and us. Good luck to him.

10.) 12 Oct 2017
12 Oct 2017 09:46:42
A face to face conversation between Macca and Ed002 I would pay to see that. Your right these type of topics make this site the best our there.

11.) 12 Oct 2017
12 Oct 2017 11:16:09
This is like Mayweather vs McGregor all over again, only I'd actually pay to watch this one.

Cheers for the info from both Ed and Macca!

12.) 12 Oct 2017
12 Oct 2017 20:12:15
I love it how if someone says anything about the owners, Klopp or a favoured player it's a hate campaign. Then when it comes to players like Mig etc it's open season to say whatever you want. Think people are being a little bit sensitive when it comes to calling any criticism a hate campaign. After all everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

13.) 13 Oct 2017
13 Oct 2017 17:21:20
What a sharkopod this would be ed002 😀

Crooky.