02 Oct 2017 12:27:29
A number of you have argued that we're fine, that we're just one point behind fourth and that people are over reacting but you're in denial. Of the 7 games we've played in the league we've only played at a level expected of this team once. Our performances against Leicester, Newcastle, Watford, Palace and Burnley have all been sub par. People say we haven't had the rub of the green but top teams don't rely on luck, they take luck out of the equation by savage superiority over their opposition.

Yesterday we saw two approaches to playing football, the first saw a manager pick a game plan that gave his team the best chance of getting a result, the players were drilled in that plan, stuck to it and won a point. The other team had no plan, it was just a collection of players who didn't know what to do, that team dropped two points.

Players are picked on as scapegoats. The CBs were at fault but who's telling them to play so high? Henderson passes sideways but we're playing so slow that that the other team has an age to get back and block his forward options. The forwards aren't scoring but we're not playing to their strengths.

By luck we're still in the battle for top four but, right now, is there anyone who believes that this team, playing like this, will win more points than Chelsea, Spurs and Arsenal over the next 31 games? I don't. Right now Klopp's limitations as a manager are being exposed. It's right now he needs to prove to us that he's as good as we hope he is, he needs to recognise the faults, come up with solutions and implement them on the pitch. Klopp has excellent players at his disposal, he must find a way to get the best out of them.

Klopp's at a turning point, we can still have an excellent season but he must find a way to get us out of this rut, not soon, but now. If he manages it then this bad run can be forgotten, if he can't then this is the beginning of the end of his time at Liverpool.


1.) 02 Oct 2017
02 Oct 2017 13:04:22
He has to get a top 4 minimum and at this rate that is not happening to me! They say we have no divine right to beat anyone so they are ok with a draw!


2.) 02 Oct 2017
02 Oct 2017 13:50:23
If klopp doesn't sort that defence his days are numbered. Being able to write a book on defendin is all well and good but if you don't have defenders that can read your fkd.


3.) 02 Oct 2017
02 Oct 2017 14:11:58
Once again we got behind the opposition plenty. Klopp doesn't tell players to miss the clear cut chances they create. I cannot explain why the players aren't burying the chances that they previously were.


4.) 02 Oct 2017
02 Oct 2017 14:20:56
What is different this season? Ed01 do you have any ideas why we look a different team to the one that started so well last season? I can't work it out? We have the same players plus a few additions. I believe we are really missing lallana, he was amazing at the start of last season but it can't be just that can it? I guess we could say these are games we were losing last year. I can't understand it.

{Ed001's Note - for me it is down to the constant chopping and changing of the team. They are struggling to get a rhythm going and to gel. Usually you have a run of 5 or 6 games together before making changes and players get into the swing of it, that has not happened for us.}


5.) 02 Oct 2017
02 Oct 2017 14:48:26
Beef, even if we had scored the second goal my point wouldn't change, we're just not playing well. Yesterday we could have won and just like in the Leicester and Palace games we would have got three points but if we continue playing at this level we'll lose and draw as often as we win and that's not good enough for our aspirations.


6.) 02 Oct 2017
02 Oct 2017 14:54:11
100% agree ed. posted a few times now that it's just ridiculous the consistent changing of goal keeper and defense, I can't fathom why he keeps doing it. I can understand Reston can and firminho after Russia in midweek, does anyone know have we played the same 11 in back to back games this season, and if so have we done it more than once?


7.) 02 Oct 2017
02 Oct 2017 16:29:48
Ed is spot on. I do agree that it is not easy for Klopp to play his preferred CB pairing cos Lovren plays injured (back problem) hence, he may need a blow at times BUT, the other parts of the team need to be set. It's early in the season so the boys should still be fit and get a run of games in a set 11 lineup. The chopping and changing is killing us esp. at GK. We have to go with a first choice 11 and stick to it for 4-5 games and go from there.

I do agree that in midfield, Lallana is a big miss as he offers more guile and skill and creativity in CM that is lacking from the other midfield 3, you know, something to switch it up a bit. Also, what is Klopp to do when players are missing sitters in front of goal? Is Studge and Salah's penchant for fluffing their lines at crucial moments Klopp's fault? The system changing will NOT suddenly make both players and Firmino suddenly become ruthless. It does not work that way even tho many moaners and pundits, want you to believe the contrary. We just have to keep working hard and supporting the players cos believe me, they are the most affected by this issue as they feel responsible for us not winning hence, forcing Klopp to have to deal with this constant nonsense he really, has no control over or is he going to go on the pitch and score for them?

{Ed002's Note - You are right, Klopp is the best manager in the wiorld and has no control over what happens at all.}


8.) 02 Oct 2017
02 Oct 2017 19:24:23
Not too bothered with that response, Ed as nowhere did I mention that, nor have I ever mentioned that he is the best manager in the world.

{Ed002's Note - Just "world class" then. I lose track of the nonsense.}


9.) 02 Oct 2017
02 Oct 2017 19:51:29
Nope, never mentioned that either. Not ever.