1.) 29 Sep 2017
29 Sep 2017 10:10:38
Not saying the FA are racist, but they are stuck in past in my opinion. Old Dinosaurs at the top.


2.) 29 Sep 2017
29 Sep 2017 12:26:35
All of our domestic officials are British. The population of Black people only makes up 3% of the entire British population. It is only logical therefore that when cherry picking out the best officials, you have a far higher statistical chance they will be white. That is just reality. We could split it 50/ 50 but then you are holding back white people who may be better just for not being black. That is totally counter productive.

Most of the players and managers in Europe are also European, with an increasing number of South Americans and Afticans. With only 14% of Europeans being of an ethic minority it is again quite obvious as to why there are more white officials, players, coaches and managers.

It is basic statistical chance, and whilst racism is without a doubt an issue in some parts of the game, it is not the reason for there being a lack of black people in the game outside of playing in my opinion. If you have a squad of 30 players, statistically you have a good chance some will be black. You only have 1 manager though so in Britain, the very simplistic explanation is that there is literally only a 3% chance anybody will be black.

If there are 100 managers, and only 3% of the Country is black, it is a strong likelihood that only 3 will be black. In pro football we can only have 92 managers at once, and i can only think of 4 who are black off the top of my head. Hasslebank, Powell, Houghton and Curle. I can't remember if Viera went into management or not. Either way, 4/ 92 is pretty much in line with the population percentages.

There are fewer black managers in jobs because there are fewer to choose from, which makes sense based on the percentage of black people in Britain.

This really is a non-issue in my opinion. I think people are clutching at straws and pointing fingers in the wrong direction. Most racism is coming from a select few players, and a small minority of the fans. There are no doubt very few higher ranking officials within the game who would jeopardise their investment by only picking employees from a certain ethnic minority. The only club i can think of ridiculous enough to do it is Athletic Bilbao, who only pick Basque players.

In the wise words of Morgan Freeman, what is the best way to PREVENT racism going forward? "Stop talking about it". To put that into context, he didn't mean ignore it as when it occurs it should be tackled head on. It is a cancer in society. Freeman meant stop making a big deal out of people being black, and just treat them like any other person, and racism will gradually disappear. Don't identify people by ethnicity. It is not what defines them. We all bleed red.


3.) 29 Sep 2017
29 Sep 2017 19:56:42
MK, the fact that ethnic minorities make up 3% of the British population is of little relevance. Black and ethnic minority players make up 33% of all players in the Premier league this season, so comparing the two is of little significance.

To state that we should stop talking about race is completely the wrong attitude to have if the injustice within British football is to be addressed. It is all too easy to ignore the matter and hope it disappears, especially if you are not part of the minority group facing prejudice, which is still definitely ever-present in Britain.

The argument that there are less minority people to choose from with regards to referees and managers/ coaches just doesn't make sense, if over a third of playing staff are formed in the Premier League by ethnic minorities. Greg Dyke in 2013 formed a commission to address the inequality and general state of football in England, yet elected to form a committee of all white, middle-aged men.

If you look widely across the upper echelons of English football, ethnic minorities are massively underrepresented, there is a clear gap between ethnic minority players making the transition into coaching. I suggest all keen football fans have a read of Les Back's 'The changing face of football', which provides an alternate view of the English FA.

{Ed025's Note - excellent post that JC..


4.) 29 Sep 2017
29 Sep 2017 20:17:21
Although I get where your coming from Adam in different parts of the country them figures do vary quite a bit.
In London for example only 60% of people are white British or from other white groups according to google, so you should expect 40% of London based refs and linesman to be non-white, I'm going to guess that's not the case.
im going to guess as well most refs and linesman are likely to come from a city or major town that has a football tradition/ heritage rather than the countryside where pretty much everyone is white and towns and cities are much more likely to have a higher density of non-white people, yet only the white refs and linesman are making it to the top of the game.
It's an interesting one isn't it.


5.) 30 Sep 2017
30 Sep 2017 10:14:23
I don't know British culture well enough. but in terms of minority culture's take positions traditionally occupied by majority ethnic groups - a lot of it comes down to, sadly,