12 Sep 2017 15:37:16
Mane's ban upheld he misses 3 games!

1.) 12 Sep 2017
12 Sep 2017 15:52:24
Where you hearing this from Jay please?

2.) 12 Sep 2017
12 Sep 2017 16:06:31
Don't see the point in appealing for bans to be reduced, I have never seen one rescinded. Does anyone know of a successful appeal in the last 10- 20 years?

This is one I thought had a good chance considering 2 other similar incidents happened this weekend of which neither were given red cards.

Oh Well, we'll just have to stick Mane in the champions league games for a bit and try out one of our many midfielders on the left.

3.) 12 Sep 2017
12 Sep 2017 16:03:14
I hope this now sets a precedent then.

If raising your boot above head height is a 3 game ban, going forward the incidents involving Ritchie and Reid within the next 48 hours, need to incur the same punishment.

Personally i think this is another step towards football becoming a non contact sport, and/ or the banning of some of the most beautiful sights in the game such as a bicycle/ overhead kick.

If that is the route the FA are going down though then it needs to be consistent. Any boot above head height is a straight red, regardless of injury caused or who is near them. Black and white rules, or no rules. Sick of interpretation BS.

{Ed002's Note - As Liverpool fans it is clear that in general you don't really get this, or multiple other aspects of the game. All we will see in the coming weeks is the ridiculous whining and pointing trying to compare any other little issues to this. It is always someone elses fault and you can't suck it up and move on.

It is also particularly stupid and very embarrassing indeed that you now want to say things like "any boot ..." - it shows a complete and total lack of understanding of the game.}

4.) 12 Sep 2017
12 Sep 2017 16:15:08
Disappointing to lose him for 3 games but we probably didn't have a chance, it being such a high profile case. Hopefully the lads step up instead. A few cracking performances by a certain Brazilian attempting to win back over the fans wouldn't go awry.

{Ed002's Note - It is not a "high profile case". Don't be stupid.}

5.) 12 Sep 2017
12 Sep 2017 16:19:42
Paul Joyce and a few others breaking it! It was expected I suppose.

6.) 12 Sep 2017
12 Sep 2017 16:36:50
Thanks Jay.

7.) 12 Sep 2017
12 Sep 2017 16:42:20
Of course it was high profile - worldwide viewing audience of a hundred million people perhaps, and at half time and full time all the talk wasn't about the game it was about the red card. Not sure what else constitutes high profile. If it was in an U23 game - not high profile - it wouldn't be being mentioned at all.

However, totally agree with Ed2 - it was a red card and dangerous so 3 match ban. Also agree everyone needs to suck it up and move on and stop making it look like we have been victimized because we haven't.

8.) 12 Sep 2017
12 Sep 2017 17:04:34
Seems like fans, refs, player and media all have a split view of this red card. My take is that it's orange and some refs will give red card, and some don't. when it's given, there is no point in appealing since FA will always protect the ref if there isn't a huge mistake. This red card was debatable, but not a huge mistake.

A wider discussion is about three games ban for a red card is to harsh, in the same way that yellow is often too soft, and red is too hard. Could it be something in between. Orange card with 10 minutes on the sideline could bee an idea.

{Ed002's Note - Anything to make it easier for Liverpool of course.}

9.) 12 Sep 2017
12 Sep 2017 17:40:12
MKS - I like most of your posts but you seriously need to look online at the face of the goalkeeper after that flying kick. He has multiple stitches in his face for goodness sake. There are photos on the internet of this and also of the moment of impact with Mane's boot.

Look, I have no doubt that he wasn't knocked out cold as he was back training today which wouldn't be allowed if unconscious less than 72 hours earlier, the club doctor simply wouldn't allow it. So yes he probably played it up, but the fact remains that it was dangerous play and he caught the keeper in the head while 2 feet were off the deck, meaning his body was out of control. It's unfortunate/ reckless/ unlucky/ dangerous. We need to forget and move on now.

10.) 12 Sep 2017
12 Sep 2017 18:18:23
Comparisons are sometimes necessary to bring context to a discussion. It is a lot more constructive than constantly bringing out the same old boring lines about deluded fans etc.
The sending off of Mane has split opinion amongst the supporters of most teams to a greater extent than most decisions. Yet listening to some, anyone on here who thinks it was not a sending off is wrong to the point of delusion.
Personally, I don't think he should have gone. Accidents happen and I don't think a player should be so heavily penalised for an accident.
I also see little wrong with expecting consistency in decisions. Mane has every right to feel unlucky given the outcome of the other 2 decision since, albeit I think the refs in these instances made the right decisions.

{Ed001's Note - the only people who are split are those who do not know the laws of the game. The laws of the game are clear that it is a red card. That should be the end of the matter, unless the laws change.}

11.) 12 Sep 2017
12 Sep 2017 18:39:20
That is true, Ed but the "purists' on here will continue to tell us how footie has gone "soft" or other crap excuses to deflect from the bleeding obvious instead of referring to the laws of the game. Pathetic reasoning, really.

12.) 12 Sep 2017
12 Sep 2017 20:38:01
I don't think it's a case of knowing the laws but rather the interpreting of them.
We have seen 3 different interpretations of similar incidents over the weekend from those who are employed to know the laws. Why are we having such a wide interpretation of what according to the law is a clear red card?
Would you like to see a change in the law? Maybe to take intent into consideration?

13.) 12 Sep 2017
12 Sep 2017 21:02:28
Sirshanks, you just called yourself delusional mate.
"Anyone on here who thinks it was not a sending off is wrong to the point of delusion.
Personally, I don't think he should have gone".
Am I missing something here?

{Ed025's Note - only an understanding of the rules kev..

14.) 12 Sep 2017
12 Sep 2017 21:48:30
Read the full sentence again. then you'll see that you have indeed missed something!

15.) 12 Sep 2017
12 Sep 2017 17:17:56
ed002 please don't assume all LFC fans are of that mindset. For many it was as clear as day, the correct decision and a pointless appeal.
I don't see the point in looking at other games and other incidents. I focus on LFC and forget about others so I don't get this "persecuted" complex and realise our club is not treated any differently, indeed sometimes we are treated leniently 🤝.

{Ed002's Note - I know there are some exceptions Ron.}

16.) 12 Sep 2017
12 Sep 2017 17:46:43
You are completely right ed2, I should have used my words more carefully- my meaning was that it was topical at the moment. Namely sky making a song and dance about it. For the fa to rescind or lessen the ban would set a bad precedence. I didn't see the point in us even bothering to appeal. The letter of the law states it was red. Can't argue with that, was simply stating the obvious that he'll be missed and my hopes are that the lads will get on with it.

{Ed002's Note - Right. There are no precedences, there is nothing special about Liverpoool, no one cares about the "messages" the club sends out.}

17.) 13 Sep 2017
13 Sep 2017 00:17:03
The only ban from a red card I can think of where the ban was removed was when Gibbs got sent off instead of the Ox for handball 3 years ago.
Literally the only time it will ever happen if it’s something as silly as mistaken identity 😂.

18.) 13 Sep 2017
13 Sep 2017 14:24:24
No, I believe he should have been red carded, I have read your comment again and it hasn't changed.
You state people are delusional if they think he shouldn't have gone - then say you personally think he should not have gone?!
It was a clear red card by the letter of the law - fact!

19.) 13 Sep 2017
13 Sep 2017 14:26:41
I'm joking, before you get me twisted Sirshanks. But you are crazy if you think he should only get yellow for that flying kick. Doesn't matter if there was intent or not mate. Those days are gone.