10 Sep 2017 11:34:30
Who do you guys reckon should start in goal for the CL game and the game against burnley?

For me, I would drop migs and put karius in goal for the CL game and give ward a chance against burnley to see what he can do. Migs has been poor and deserves to be dropped IMO. Against City he did not command his area or pass the ball well at all, surrendering possession easily and making all the wrong decisions when balls were crossed into the box.

1.) 10 Sep 2017
10 Sep 2017 11:51:36
Karius. No questions asked.

Migs is a great lad, but Ed001 is bang on when he says he gives the defence in front of him kittens.

Could have a back 4 of Lahm, Inzaghi, Puyol and Maldini in their prime and they'd be nervous with Mignolet behind them.

2.) 10 Sep 2017
10 Sep 2017 11:57:54
First and foremost we need to stop this comedy of rotating keepers every now and then. If anything you need stability and understanding at the back.

3.) 10 Sep 2017
10 Sep 2017 12:23:55
Karius probably harmed his chances with his needless dwelling on the ball against Arsenal. It's the last thing a keeper with a reputation for being error-prone needed to do when trying to re-stake his place. The defenders, the crowd and Klopp are going to look at that and think "has anything changed there? ". The only two bits of actual goalkeeping he had to do (two set pieces) he dealt with effectively and decisively, but everyone remembers him getting caught on the ball three times in one game instead.

That being said, if it was up to me, I'd still put Karius in because Migs is a serious problem area. Even if he stopped making errors forever, he still wouldn't command his area, he still wouldn't communicate with his defenders properly, he still wouldn't be able to pass the ball reliably and his shot stopping would still be nothing to write home about. We have three goalkeepers, and as far as I'm concerned, Migs the worst of the three and won't improve with more experience, where the other two might. Why is he still first choice?

4.) 10 Sep 2017
10 Sep 2017 12:35:37
I meant Nesta, not Inzaghi above btw! Was talking to a mate about Inzaghi, who's a striker, and got confused haha!

5.) 10 Sep 2017
10 Sep 2017 12:35:39
Btw, if anyone wants to see the difference an actual good goalie makes (rather than one who just manages not to drop absolute clangers for a few months), imagine if Migs had been City's goalie yesterday instead of ours, especially on the Mane sending off. Do you think Migs would've displayed the combination of anticipation, bravery and athleticism that Ederson did to get 25 yards from his goal, put his body on the line, beat Mane to the ball, and snuff out the goalscoring opportunity?

No, of course he wouldn't have.

If Ederson had stayed in his box and Mane had scored, would anyone have blamed him for the goal? No. But it was still preventable and Ederson did prevent it because he's a good goalkeeper.

6.) 10 Sep 2017
10 Sep 2017 12:46:56
Ward all day for me. Better than both the others. If he wasn't going to get his chance why not let him go back to Huddersfield to play? Strange.

7.) 10 Sep 2017
10 Sep 2017 13:48:01
Ward for me too, give him a run of games not just one. He will sink or swim!

8.) 10 Sep 2017
10 Sep 2017 13:29:34
It seems to me that Klopp wants healthy competition between the 3 keepers, but is not willing to just throw ward into a game. I understand it from his POV, given that everyone was on karius' back for every mistake he made last season.

I am still hopeful that Karius will come out good though. I really like his performance against arsenal, apart from the 2/ 3 times he dallied on the ball. He was organising his defence well, assertive when coming out for crosses and was encouraging/ screaming at defenders. Klopp should've stuck with karius as his no.1 last season IMO, as the defence was playing well and keeping clean sheets at that time.

9.) 10 Sep 2017
10 Sep 2017 16:46:15
Karius all day. Ward deserves a shot but he is not even Wales no 1. And their keeper ain't amazing. Good but nothing special. Mignolet must do something in training because he is not doing it in games.

Totally agree that you need to have stability. Give karius the shirt and give him a bit of Lea way to start with.

{Ed001's Note - Ward is not Wales number 1 purely because he is not playing for us.}

10.) 10 Sep 2017
10 Sep 2017 16:56:59
Ward is a really good keeper. Exceptional reflexes, decent on crosses and distribution is good as well. Confident lad as well.

11.) 10 Sep 2017
10 Sep 2017 17:29:52
Superred, how can Coleman pick Ward when he's not playing club level? If he was to start for Liverpool and play well, and let's face it he wouldn't be worse than the other two donkeys, we would start for Wales. You have a good keeper there wasting away when he could be getting valuable premier league experience is Klopp doesn't see him as first choice. It's baffling.

12.) 10 Sep 2017
10 Sep 2017 21:55:55
Stand, if you think Karius is a donkey then I fear for your football knowledge. You don't get named 2nd best GK in the Bundesliga if you are a donkey. FACT.

{Ed025's Note - well the last time i saw him bingo he was giving rides to kids on ainsdale beach and eating an awful lot of carrots mate.. :)