01 Sep 2017 19:56:13
Why is it that so many are calling AOC average when he has not even featured under Klopp yet?

Many a player has looked average under Wenger.

1.) 01 Sep 2017
01 Sep 2017 20:29:42
Yeah, the same manager that has gained top 4, bar last season for years and has spent a hell of a lot less than Liverpool over the same period. Not bad with all those "average" players.

2.) 01 Sep 2017
01 Sep 2017 20:34:27
Another utility player to warm the bench.

Grujic and Woodburn need the chances he would be expected to get along with Can.

We can't blame anyone.

You must have heard the story of Grijic's dad stealing his passport to avoid the move to LFC.

Hope if he had wise men advising, he would not have come here to rot.

Good thing is AOC took pay cut to be here which is very rare. Appreciate him for that but fact is he is another avg in our books.

3.) 01 Sep 2017
01 Sep 2017 20:55:04
and the same people who wrote off andy robertson before he even played a minute for us, who was man of the match on his debut for us and has just scored a beauty for scotland. I'm not AOC biggest fan but he has indeed been in an underperforming and over relaxed arsenal squad for the last 6 years and i do think that playing for klopp at his boyhood team could see him become a really good squad player for us and not just a benchwarmer. there is undoubtedly ability in him as there is in every top level footballer, its just a matter of getting it out of him.

4.) 01 Sep 2017
01 Sep 2017 20:55:42
Irish, you're joking right? Arsenal are a shambles cos now, they actually have to compete with two clubs that they did not have to deal with in the recent past: LFC snd Spurs. Both teams have better players and a better manager than Arsenal and once the going got tough, they have wilted under the challenge. Arsenal is yet to beat both LFC and Spurs since 2015. Why? Cos this is the year that both Klopp and Poch arrived at both clubs. That is no coincidence.

Apart from Sanchez, NO other player (not even Ozil) will start at either clubs and that is down to the job both managers are doing while Arsenal (Le Dictateur as they now call him) is still coaching in the stoneage with bang awful players who couldn't be arsed to run 10 yards during a game or are happy with stealing a living on the bench like Walcott.

5.) 01 Sep 2017
01 Sep 2017 21:29:05
I like grujic he needs sum confidence few goals jus too settle down he has quality an could be very important for us in future.

6.) 01 Sep 2017
01 Sep 2017 21:29:21
Bingored. I think you will find that Spurs have done pretty well in the league in the "recent past"

Tell me, how many trophies have Poch and Klopp won between them since they joined their teams? Its not too hot even when you add them both together. What i do know is that Arsenal with their one good player (Sanchez) have won 3 trophies in 4 years. Better than us and Spurs with their "average" players.

7.) 01 Sep 2017
01 Sep 2017 21:32:54
Can someone knock round for Mr Dennis? He's not on this thread and I fear he's had an accident.

8.) 01 Sep 2017
01 Sep 2017 21:38:32
Got to Support the ox now he wears the shirt. my only concern is klopps style destroys players and ox ain't the most durable of players he already has a big injury record i hope its all in the past as we already have enough injurys over last few years.

9.) 01 Sep 2017
01 Sep 2017 21:41:33
To be fair, I think Bellerin, Cech, Sanchez and PISSIBLY Monreal (instead of Moreno come on) would get into LFC's side right now. Can't speak for Spurs as I can't stand watching them.

10.) 01 Sep 2017
01 Sep 2017 21:54:31
Ballerin looks half the player he did. Monreal is just awful. Robertson's better.
Cech and Sanchez only for me. Wenger success came from when he was only competing with utd. as for cup wins. Gerrard houllier won 5 trophies in a year but failed in the league so went. rafa won a champions league. you can win trophies with a average team. the league goes not lie. Wenger should go for the good of arsenal. do you arsenal fans not realise that every other clubs fans rejoiced when Wenger signed a new contract as it effectively ended their challenge for 2 years.

11.) 01 Sep 2017
01 Sep 2017 22:34:20
People need to reign it in, Robertson has played one game against an awful palace side and has now scored against Lithuania and people think he's Ashley Cole!

12.) 01 Sep 2017
01 Sep 2017 23:04:17
Exactly Cobra. As soon as he has a bad game, watch the critics on here rip him. He's now being judged as better than Monreal after one game. You couldn't make this sheet up lol.

13.) 02 Sep 2017
02 Sep 2017 04:56:52
I think we've had players surprise us before. Many times we've had players that are not extremely talented endear themselves to the fans because of their application and willingness to give their all for the shirt. Effort and determination should never be disregarded and I only hope we get that from AOC.
I distinctly remember how Lucas was slated when he began his Liverpool career, and while he was never the most talented or technically gifted, he worked hard and most of us grew to love him. Personally, I was devastated when he injured his knee against Chelsea, I think it was when Kenny was manager. In the end he had a 10 year LFC career when few gave him a chance to last more than 1 season.

The lesson to be learnt is to be patient and give each new player an opportunity to prove and improve.

14.) 02 Sep 2017
02 Sep 2017 16:55:05
Monreal is terrible. not judging Robertson better on basis of one game. Judging it on monreal being a awfully overrated player lol.

15.) 03 Sep 2017
02 Sep 2017 23:08:56
Okay mate. I'll take your word for it lol. 😆.

16.) 03 Sep 2017
03 Sep 2017 20:10:43
Have you seen him recently.