30 Aug 2017 21:13:45
Seriously don't understand the bashing of AOC. Opta Stats for 16/ 17
AOC scored more goals than Hendo
More shots than Hendo
More assists than Hendo and Can put together
Created the same chances as Hendo and 1 behind Can
Has a better passing accuracy than Can

And still only 24.

Just saying.


1.) 30 Aug 2017
30 Aug 2017 21:24:41
Great post mate.

{Ed025's Note - stats dont mean a great deal to be honest billy, so hes better than hendo..who isnt..


2.) 30 Aug 2017
30 Aug 2017 21:26:51
Henderson doesn't score enough. He bottles up front and one reason he was dropped into deeper role! That is not a good reference at all. Can has been playing 3 years while Ox is at Arsenal from a long time mate!


3.) 30 Aug 2017
30 Aug 2017 21:29:06
Unbelievable quite unbelievable get a grip lad.


4.) 30 Aug 2017
30 Aug 2017 21:35:32
He's a Liverpool player now. Let's all get behind him.
I'm sure he'll go from strength to strength under Klopp.
Welcome to Liverpool Alex
YNWA.


5.) 30 Aug 2017
30 Aug 2017 21:37:18
Are you having a laugh Rabble?


6.) 30 Aug 2017
30 Aug 2017 21:41:49
I agree anfield robbie, this lad is 24 built like a tank, powerful, pacey, skilful, english and has desire too do well, klopp will know just wat to do get best out of him.


7.) 30 Aug 2017
30 Aug 2017 21:45:09
Sighs. All completely meaningless.
Regulardless he'll be a decent square player. Expensive one too.


8.) 30 Aug 2017
30 Aug 2017 21:50:01
So Oxlade-Chamberlain, who played 45 times last season, primarily as a winger and attacking midfielder, could only create the same number of chances as Henderson, who exclusively played as a deepest lying of three midfielders? Oh, and Henderson could only manage 27 appearances due to injuries.

I'll give you some help. Comparing players who don't play the same role, and didn't make anything like the same number of appearances doesn't really tell you a lot about either player. I appreciate stats are a difficult mistress for some people, but I would at least expect a token effort to compare like with like.

If your stats obsessed and insist on comparing the Ox with an incumbent Liverpool player, try Wijnaldum or Lallana.


9.) 30 Aug 2017
30 Aug 2017 22:04:43
Heart is with liverpool that makes a change.


10.) 30 Aug 2017
30 Aug 2017 21:51:40
Bet all those stats are the same as Kante also, other than the pass accuracy maybe.
Just saying 😉.


11.) 30 Aug 2017
30 Aug 2017 21:53:47
Gylfi, barkley shniderlin there three Ed25.

{Ed025's Note - nah mate, you know better than that ted..


12.) 30 Aug 2017
30 Aug 2017 21:55:23
He will get the benefit of the doubt from me. I feel a bit like when we signed Gini - didn't think he was the player we needed, I even felt a bit like that about Sadio (still not sure exactly when he got so effing good?!? ) . I know that Arsen is gutted to be losing him, and despite his current problems he still knows a player. He is quick and powerful, and maybe with a little bit of what Sadio has been eating Klopp and co can turn him into a worldie.

In Klopp I trust.


13.) 30 Aug 2017
30 Aug 2017 21:56:38
Ed25 wasn't you raving about gilfys stats as a way to justify how good he was a little while ago 😂😂.

{Ed025's Note - no mate i never quote stats...liverpool are a big club according to some statistics..


14.) 30 Aug 2017
30 Aug 2017 21:56:57
Completely ridiculous reference point Anfield Rabble. Compare him to Mane, Salah or an attacking midfielder like Coutinho, as he's a winger who thinks he can play centre midfield, in the context of their performances he looks very very ordinary indeed.

Henderson plays a deeper role so doesn't get forward, you should compare interceptions, tackles, passes made and passes successfully made, which are fairer and more tangible.

For the record, when Oxlade has played in centre midfield Arsenal, they have been humped by the opposition and when he has for England, they've were over run in midfield. Make of that what you want. But it doesn't say anything positive.


15.) 30 Aug 2017
30 Aug 2017 22:01:03
Great post in AOC defense! Out of order the on the lad! C'mon he's playing for the mighty reds now!


Btw I get the 2 man midfield point. But who says he can't play right of 3 man midfield! Gini wini couldn't! Lallana used to get ripped on here! Lucas. Took Years to respect him!


16.) 31 Aug 2017
31 Aug 2017 00:42:59
Rabble, you get an A for effort but your post is has so many holes in it. Ox had more assists than Can and Hendo. That is a poor stat. Can is a the supremely better player than Ox in CM, and based on current form, one of the best in the PL. The stats will never tell you that. Ox is not a patch on Hendo.

Hendo scored 7 goals and double digit assists in 14/ 15 season before his injuries started. Ox has scored 9 goals in 6 years. Wiji, Hendo, Lallana, Mane and Salah, scored more goals than him in one season. How is he better than Hendo? Hendo plays as a 6 and is getting better at it while Ox can't play there or anywhere in our CM or out wide.

Ox maybe Klopp's choice BUT to say he is worth starting when all our mids are fit, is laughable. He is inferior to every midfielder and winger we have in the first team bar Grujic who is young but very promising. Next time If you want to compare players, I suggest you don't use stats as your argument as they can be debunked effortlessly. I just did as it was that easy.