12 Aug 2017 17:28:48
Clearly our back 5 is unacceptable for a side that plans on challenging for the title.

Migs has done OK of late but still makes me worry - he should have come for the first corner and lacked conviction in controlling his area. For me he is fine to start but only behind a well organised defence as he's not vocal enough and lacks confidence.

TAA wasn't great today but I don't mind that too much - they guy is young and deserves patience and the chance to make the odd mistake.

Matip is hit and miss for me. Still the best in the air in our back 5, but think he needs to be with an experienced partner as he's not a leader in defence, and needs someone to direct his play.

Lovren - sorry but although he does some decent defending sometimes, he's so prone to panic and the occasional mistake I just don't get it. Not physically dominant or good enough in the air.

Moreno - seriously, did we all think one game meant he's now a world beater? Still prone to poor decisions and rash challenges like in the buildup to the second goal.

In short, two players prone to panic and mistakes, two that lack a vocal leadership style that's so critical in defence, and a teenager.

Klopp please fix CB first and then let's end the Moreno experiment once and for all please. With TAA on the right in particular we need a solid defensive option on the left.

1.) 12 Aug 2017
12 Aug 2017 17:41:48
It's clearly not just the back 5 at fault. When the majority of your goals are the result of a set piece, the responsibility falls on more than just your back line.

2.) 12 Aug 2017
12 Aug 2017 17:48:59
I think we can get better players but I'm with Carra, it's more the coaching, system and tactics.

Set pieces, Firminho in the 6 yard box in the middle! Really!

3.) 12 Aug 2017
12 Aug 2017 20:25:07
Spot on, Statto. Who's dumb idea was it to put Firmino in the 6 yard box, anyway? And we are surprised that we leak goals from set pieces. VVD or Maldini won't help you there in that setup, clearly.

4.) 13 Aug 2017
13 Aug 2017 02:35:58
I agree Firmino was a problem but what other side in the PL wouldn't have had a CB or the GK attacking that ball? Defensive setups is a problem perhaps, but I'm pretty sure Klopp hasn't ever said 'Why don't we have Firmino cover the most dangerous area in the box on his own'