26 Jul 2017 16:46:30
Hey Editors, Liverpool obviously have problems in doing transfers and that is affecting us more than it does to the clubs we want to buy from. But speaking of legality and being ethical, here we hear Coutinho agreeing deal with Barcelona or that they are confident of of landing him. That kinda of information to sky has to come from the club. If this is not true, they are doing it on purpose for whatever reason. If that is not illegal, it should atleast be unethical. So still confused what Liverpool did to make them so worse than the others. Asking this because specially ed002 is disgusted with the way Liverpool do business.

{Ed002's Note - Sure I would be pleased to satisfy your need to understand what Liverpool and Klopp did again - but I suspect others are sick of reading it. I have no idea what Sky have said but there is no suggestion of any wrong doing but if anything his agent may, on instruction from Coutinho, have overstepped the mark in his discussions with Barcelona. Coutinho should also not have requested Neymar to speak to Barcelona on his behalf. There is no suggestion that Barcelona has made any illegal approach to the player at all.}

1.) 26 Jul 2017
26 Jul 2017 17:35:36
I think what he's getting at Ed is Barcelona briefing the press as to their intentions in an attempt to unsettle the player. Seems we are not the only ones that do it.

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of them doing that. Did they do that a couple of montsh before the end of the season to a few who were to go out and deliberately unsettle players and give interviews to others. I have explained for the past year about Coutinho and his efforts to move to Barcelona. And whilst Liverpool are absolutely bottom of the pile in terms of behavior, Barcelona are likely the fourth worst offender.

You want to stop trying to push the blame aware and bring others in to it. You are simply making the Liverpool fans even more of a laughing stock.}

2.) 26 Jul 2017
26 Jul 2017 18:23:41
Jesus ED002 you really don't seem to like the Liverpool fans, club or manager very much do you. Fewey!

{Ed002's Note - I have nothing against them but they keep asking the same things over and over again and they keep trying to justify the repugnant behavior of Klopp and saying everyone else does it - they don't. Right now both Southampton and Leipzig have players who are damaged good because of Liverpool -and I appreciate that there are plenty of morons who think this is a great way to business - it isn't.}

3.) 26 Jul 2017
26 Jul 2017 18:46:17
Ed02 am i right, sorry if im wrong, that youve said for sometime, that couts has- privatley trued for a Barcelona move- while publicly being happy to be at lfc?

{Ed002's Note - I have spent a year or more explaining what he has done.}

4.) 26 Jul 2017
26 Jul 2017 18:56:03
We are just trying to understand your point of view ed. You have yet again used a hugely derogatory adjective to describe Klopp and Liverpool's behaviour. From the outside looking in it looks like most other clubs behaviour is just as repugnant. We could now be left with a player in Coutinho that is 'damaged goods' because of Barca's advances and strategic use of the press. Not trying to justify anything we've done just observing what is clearly going on. I've said before tapping up is rife in the game and to think it's not is just plain naive.

{Ed002's Note - It is nothing whatsoever to do with Barcelona or Coutinho. You don't seem to get that using UNPROFESSIONAL AND ILLEGAL MEANS LIVERPOOL HAVE DAMAGED TWO ROFESSIONAL PLAYERS CONTRACTED TO ANOTHER CLUB. THEY ALSO DESTROYED THE CAREER OF A 12 YEAR OLD BOY, LEAVING HIS PARENTS IN DEPT. THEY HAVE SUBMITTED FRAUDULENT AND FALSIFIED DOCUMENTATION TO AN INVESTIGATION THAT THEY ALSO LIED TO. THEY ALSO TRIED TO PERSUADE THE PARENTS OF THE CHILD TO LIE. THEY ARE ALREADY SERVING A BAN. THEY HAVE A COURT CASE COMING THAT HAS POSTENTIALLY VERY SERIOUS RAMIFICATIONS BECAUSE OF ONE PIECE OF EVIDENCE. THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY BOTTOM OF THE PILE OF EUROPEAN FOOTBALL.

Thank you for yet again bringing this up.}

5.) 26 Jul 2017
26 Jul 2017 19:36:22
Ed2 the court case coming you have mentioned is that separate to this stoke kid or is it that case. As I believe that one is going on now. On the Stoke youngster I see his dad was quoted as saying it's a widespread issue in football and not just liverpool although I can't remember the issue he was talking about. Is there anything the fa or uefa can do to stop this or is there just to many loopholes in which clubs use to get around signing the young kids, other than the transfer bans. I would like to see the singing of kids stopped if possible the amount of kids who get signed for big money then just dissappear from the game is crazy.

{Ed002's Note - It is related. Tapping up of kids is a widespread issue - what Liverpool did is not.}

6.) 26 Jul 2017
26 Jul 2017 19:47:57
Can those of us on here who keep trying to push the blame for our horrendous tapping up nonsense on other clubs under the pathetic excuse of "hey you see, everyone does it so what's the problem? " or go read Ed02 posts on the issue or just stop asking the same pathetic questions over and over again.

7.) 26 Jul 2017
26 Jul 2017 19:51:46
Can you not just all leave it? I really don't get what the issue is here.

It's like now you're trying to say that Ed002 is making the situation to be far worse than it is. Clearly he isn't.

I can remember, albeit a while back, Ed002 saying that he actually had a bit of a soft spot for Liverpool and used to really respect the club (pretty sure I'm not imagining this? ) .

He's clearly involved in the game to a large degree and I'd imagine when you see and understand, first hand, the serious ramifications that our behaviour has caused it becomes hard to brush that under the carpet. Couple that with being asked everyday why we're being targeted for abuse and why he has some personal vendetta with Klopp and Co its going to grate like f*ck on you, which it clearly has. He's only human like the rest of us. In many respects for him to ignore it would make him a bit of a knobhead so just try and think about this before constantly going down the same boring tunnel over and over.

Everytime a deflection is possible people seem to start asking how it's any different to us etc. It's dragging this page down at times.

8.) 26 Jul 2017
26 Jul 2017 19:53:01
This tripe is getting extremely old, why can't most fans swallow that bitter pill yet¿
We are not that brilliant club everybody seems to remember.

And couts wants to leave. He's been engineering a move HIMSELF.
Let him go, we can't behave the way we have been behaving and expect other clubs just to sell up.
It's disgusting.

The people who dislike like comment are the people who need to swallow that pill and move on.

ED2 has said it plain and simple for the past god knows how long, no matter how many different ways you ask the question the answer is still the same.

9.) 26 Jul 2017
26 Jul 2017 20:41:14
for you ED02 I've been a Liverpool supporter since 1970 and believe me has scousers we've been hated and blamed for heinous acts that have no truth or very little substantiated truth. yes there is good and bad but collectively I've seen our supporters do heroic things which I know has not been publicised or for that matter even talked about again by our supporters. My question to you mate is what the F##k are you doing on this site. Just go lad and on to a site you support Manure at a guess?

{Ed002's Note - Totally agree with what you are saying in the first sentence. As to your question, I have not set anything that is not true. As to the "Manure" comment, I suspect you spend too much time with your arms stretched out making airplane noises. You personify the rubbish.}

10.) 26 Jul 2017
26 Jul 2017 21:07:04
I only brought this up to get an opinion not to get a clear answer. Here are the facts I know, Ed2 saying Coutinho is asking for the move for a long time, Klopp saying he is not leaving, Coutinho signed a contract that would make it hard for him to leave, and Coutinho's strong words on how he wants to stay at Liverpool. Anything is possible I know but none of it is straight forward.
As far the business is concerned, many of us here Don't know what goes on behind the scene, but for the most part I take your word on it, you seem to know where the line is drawn but for the rest of us what we see is, we have two of our players affected by transfer dealings and two others affected by our club. Whether you do it through agent or another player the outcome is still the same. At the end of the day, it's what the player wants. Nobody felt sorry for Liverpool when mascherano refused to play and Barcelona bought him for cheap. Business is business, it has never looked pretty.

11.) 26 Jul 2017
26 Jul 2017 22:27:59
Lolt, Ed2 is far more welcome on this site than the likes of you.

12.) 27 Jul 2017
26 Jul 2017 23:39:13
Spot on PutneyRed👏👏 ED2 is heart of this site, without him I wouldn't have known how footy is run.

13.) 27 Jul 2017
26 Jul 2017 21:31:51
I did see a few things mentioned although it was a few weeks back so can't remember to much of the detail other then changing the dates on the paper work but it was embarrassing an amateurish what was mentioned. Is there anything they can do to prevent these transfers. How many times is it a young kids plays a handful of games at a low club the all the bigger clubs are sniffing around I'd rather they stay where they are till a reasonable age before moving on rather then rot in an academy of a top club. I think deli alli is the perfect example for younger players coming through and they should look at players like bostock or whatever his name was who went to spurs from palace I believe and is unheard of now.
Also my point wasn't a dig at ed2 or anyone or to say it's not just liverpool who do it, it was is there any way they can prevent it happening at that level. Maybe I should have worded it better the only relevant part in it to Liverpool was the court case part.