20 Jul 2017 11:59:49
Ok ok ok, I'm clearly thick as sh** but I really don't get this whole "tapping up" business in the first place. If a club is interested in a player, why not just go straight to his contracted club and submit a formal offer and if it's accepted by that club then it's up to the player to decide if he's interested on joining your club or not.


1.) 20 Jul 2017
20 Jul 2017 12:05:26
The objective of "tapping up" is basically to ensure the player wants to come before wasting time making bids, but it’s mainly so we can try and get the player to force a move and hopefully get a reduced fee because he wants to leave.
Bites us on the ass every time yet we will never learn smh.


2.) 20 Jul 2017
20 Jul 2017 12:35:51
I think it's perfectly reasonable for a club to contact a player's agent and ask them "If we were to make a bid, would you client be interested in talking to us? "

What is not reasonable is to talk directly to the player themselves, discuss money and terms with them and then announce to the media what your intentions are with regards to that player without ever contacting his club to inform them of any interest. All in the hope that the player tells his club he wants to leave and to leave them with little to no option but to sell him for cheaper then they think is reasonable.

No wonder clubs are getting annoyed at us. All we are doing is shooting ourselves in the foot every time we act like this.


3.) 20 Jul 2017
20 Jul 2017 13:08:05
Cheers for the replies guys. still don't the concept behind trying to find out if a player is interested in joining before making a formal bid, like we could easily go out and make a bid for Messi and he just turns around and says he's not interested in joining us. This whole trying to find out or unsettle a player (tapping up) just seems a complete wasted exercise.

I do get the concept of tapping up of younger players, such as takes place in American sports quite a lot, "Join our team and we'll buy your Mom a house" sort of thing.

Anyways, ramble over.

Cheers.

{Ed002's Note - There is nothing wrong with finding out if a player is interested at all. And that is perfectly fine. What Liverpool have done repeated is unsettle and illegally approach players of other clubs. It is unprofessional in the extreme. What I don't get is the fans want to keep talking about this.}


4.) 20 Jul 2017
20 Jul 2017 13:59:13
The club can't attract the player by other means!
Too many suitors for the player!
Force the selling club to listen to offers!


5.) 20 Jul 2017
20 Jul 2017 14:02:51
RedDawn, that is incorrect. If you are interested in a player, your first port of call is to the player's club and not to his agent.


6.) 20 Jul 2017
20 Jul 2017 15:42:48
Is the process different in other countries? I only ask because it seems odd that Klopp is doing at Liverpool but there was never any mention of underhand tactics whilst he was at Dortmund (correct me if I'm wrong) . If it's the same process he must have just forgot the rules but if it's different and in Germany you can approach the player then it could be a genuine mistake?

{Ed002's Note - You think FIFA rules don't apply in Germany and Klopp made a simple mistake? Brilliant.}


7.) 20 Jul 2017
20 Jul 2017 16:12:32
Not what I said but I guess i'll take it. Thanks for your time.


8.) 21 Jul 2017
21 Jul 2017 23:22:27
My two cents - Dortmund albeit not the best, have been a top well known club for years and players would want to go their without underhand tactics being applied.

Unfortunately because Liverpool have been so 'off the radar' for so long and we are so unpredictable in our league position. Players aren't as keen to joining us. We have the History but we don’t have the Present so to speak.

Players want champions league and Dortmund rarely had a problem getting that and did better than us when we did occasionally get into it.