27 Jun 2017 12:52:34
Ed002, just wanna say I appreciate all the info you provide us. Whether it's good news or bad news, cheers! I have to accept a lot of the things you've said about Klopp as he seems to be messing up things that should be so straight forward. But on the promises he made to winning the title, I do remember him clearly stating in a press conference upon his arrival that he would win the league within 4 years. Maybe he said something different to the owners? But he publically said it would take him 4 years, so I don't think he has lied about that as it's only been 2 years. And if he thinks it would take 4 years, that would obviously include new players as there's 8 windows in that time. Just looking to clarify that part as on my watch he still has 2 years to complete that 'promise'
(Not an attack, more a clarification)

{Ed002's Note - Not what he told the owners to get the job.}


1.) 27 Jun 2017
27 Jun 2017 21:19:31
Klopp knocking is so unbecoming of real fans. Grow up and enjoy the ride. The future is bright.


2.) 27 Jun 2017
27 Jun 2017 21:48:56
Josek, where do I knock Klopp? I'm a big admirer of Klopp, I think he is capable of returning an element of the glory days back, I back him 100% and trust him with the team. My point was about clarification on him winning the title. I'm grown up, and I thoroughly enjoy the LFC ride, your response is a little confusing though as it just seems you want to be negative towards other fans. Maybe you need to grow up and realise, although Klopp is the right guy for the job (IMO), some of his dealings with transfers have been dodgey, and put the club in difficult situations. you need to be mature and recognise this. Doesn't change my opinion or optimism, the future is very bright, but silly remarks with no context like yours, just slow us down.


3.) 28 Jun 2017
28 Jun 2017 08:25:12
Last year was his first full season he had with the team and you could clearly see the difference. I think you have to see the bigger picture. Winning titles is a good thing but to get there you have to improve the players and the football they are playing and the style has clearly changed up.

The only thing keeping us from beeing serious title contestants is that we allways mess up against the weaker sides. I know klopp from his days at Mainz and Dortmund and he needs a bit of time to get everybody on board.


4.) 28 Jun 2017
27 Jun 2017 17:10:29
Well in that case ed002, he may have lied to the owners but he didn't lie to us

I think it was shankly that said football is about a trinity of the fans, players and manager - directors are there to sign the cheques.

{Ed002's Note - Feeble excuses for the continued celebration of failure.}


5.) 28 Jun 2017
27 Jun 2017 17:31:23
Because you was there at the interview ed02.

{Ed002's Note - Truly pitiful.}


6.) 28 Jun 2017
27 Jun 2017 17:36:33
When he said win a title, I don't believe he was specifically referring to the Premier League, I think he meant win a trophy in general within 4 years.

{Ed002's Note - Just what the owners want after spending all of that money.}


7.) 28 Jun 2017
27 Jun 2017 17:40:00
He said in the opening presser when he signed he wid hope to win "a " title in 3 years as the deal was 3 years (excluding the one he was in as it was October time ) . Liverpool was not in the position to challenge and bar a cup final lost on pens and a Europa lge final he's done well . Matip wijnaldim mane all very good buys . And every day offensive player has increased their output . He's improved them . Top 4 in first full season was a good return . And soend wasn't big either . He's done a sound job . Cudnt imagine anyone else doing a better job with what we had . Henderson coutinho lallana matip mane al missed large parts along wit Sturridge .

{Ed002's Note - "Hoped" - even better.}


8.) 28 Jun 2017
27 Jun 2017 17:41:29
I'd imagine he could have told them they were two d#$kheads and he still would have got the job. we were hardly going to attract anyone better.

{Ed002's Note - Yes they did, but he wanted to spend money.}


9.) 28 Jun 2017
27 Jun 2017 21:54:23
Ed002, cheers for clearing that up! I do think it would be a little naive for owners to believe a manager saying that, before he has met the players and trained them, baring a few obvious squads in the world I'd say it's hard to truly judge a whole squad and it's capabilities before training with them. Enjoy your travelling, appreciate you putting up with us!


10.) 28 Jun 2017
27 Jun 2017 21:54:37
Arguing with ed002 about Klopp in particular or Liverpool in general is like mudwrestling with a pig.
We've enjoyed the benefits of his knowledge, just accept that he sees things from a different perspective and not through red tinted glasses like most of us fans. So if you want your biases confirmed go elsewhere, but if you want an outsider's view, debate on.


11.) 28 Jun 2017
28 Jun 2017 11:59:50
I think that if any manager were applying for the job they would do the same thing and be faced with the same problem. I doubt klopps position at Liverpool was any different than other managers at other clubs. If he had been honest and said "Well maybe we will win a title in 2 years but probably not because we're a bit shit" I imagine he would never have got the job.