27 Jun 2017 14:26:06
Just regarding ox he would bring versatility, pace and power, prem / European / international experience and lots of room for him to improve in the areas many have pointed out are his flaws. One of which, his intelligence on the ball, to me is extremely unfair given his age and predominantly playing on the wing. If milner could barely transition from utility / winner to a Central midfield position in his late twenties to thirties, it surely is not a fair standard to be measuring the Ox against.

1.) 27 Jun 2017
27 Jun 2017 15:42:37
Milner and ox arw like two peas in a pod.

Both tryers but never top level.

Ox is ok. that's it. Nothing special.

To put this crap to bed all arsenal have done is buy him out of the team.

Him and wilshire are garbage, and arsene knows it.

If you can't get keita whose the target then leave that position and see if he's avaluable next yesr and go and sign are next position of need in mendy.

2.) 27 Jun 2017
27 Jun 2017 16:08:33
😂 😂 here comes the "he's potentially world class, he's young, he's this, he's that"
Sorry I've watched ox for years now and he's not good enough and will never be close to top class in any position because he simply doe not have the ability.
Keita clearly is highly unlikely but I'd rather wijnaldim continuing to progress in midfield than wasting 20 plus million on a player who will do nothing but add onto the wage bill.
I still think wijnaldim does not do enough on the pitch but the difference is he has a lot of ability. He's technically excellent. He also works hard and has improved.
Unfortunately being English, being relatively young and because klopp rates him magically confuses fans.
Let's not carry political correctness into football.
Form your own opinions. Klopps not a magician and has certainly bought poorly before.

3.) 27 Jun 2017
27 Jun 2017 16:29:31
Spot on Super and Big Al. The description many are painting of the Ox simply does not match the player many of us have been watching for the past 4 years. They paint a pic of a player that does not exist and has never existed. He brings versatility, can run all day and the pother stuff. So what? We should then just sign him up for that.

He has limited ability unlike Wiji, Lallana, Hendo and even Grujic has more potential than him in CM. The fact that someone actually posted that, "Ox has more ability than Lallana" is the one that took the biscuit for me. He is overrated and has very little if any tactical or positional intelligence cos I have simply not seen any. The kid just ain't that special.

Cos Klopp rates him and cos he's English (another pathetic excuse) does not erase his poor record at Arsenal regardless of how the poor record came about. If Klopp can make him better and improve him then, I'll defer to him BUT let's not start painting a picture of a player that does not exist, to describe Ox.

4.) 27 Jun 2017
27 Jun 2017 16:29:38
Funny because you said gini wasn't good enough and said he was a terrible signing too Big Al.

5.) 27 Jun 2017
27 Jun 2017 16:44:20
People just need to trust Klopp. We were judging Wijaldum before he signed as well even the eds did and look how he worked out. I think the Ox will prove to be a very good player for us. I really like his attitude. From watching Arsenal last season he was one of the only players that never gave up. We need players with this mentality as we drop our heads far to often when we concede first. Plus I have been bombarding the eds with posts asking about adding depth for our wingers and he will be it now thank god.

6.) 27 Jun 2017
27 Jun 2017 16:46:45
Afternoon all hope you are all well, in my opinion oxlade chamberlain is going to be playing more of a Lucas lieva role and in terms of quality I would say he has more than Lucas, he is also cover for the wings so upgrade all around if u ask me.

7.) 27 Jun 2017
27 Jun 2017 17:07:11
Cyklopps, trusting Klopp is not the issue for me. My issue is that people are just making it out that Ox is some very good player who will improve us, something that is patently false IMO due to his poor record at Arsenal.

I criticized Klopp for signing Wiji cos I thought he had a poor attitude at Newcastle towards the end. Not once, did I question his ability as I already watched him play at the World Cup where he was brilliant as well as at Newcastle. Same with Mane. Ox does not have the ability Wiji, Hendo, Can and Lallana or IMO, the potential of Grujic to play in CM. That is just the reality. Now if Klopp wants him, then I will defer to him. To me, they are separate issues.

Joes, Ox to play the DM position that Lucas played at LFC? You have lost me there, bro.

8.) 27 Jun 2017
27 Jun 2017 17:21:36
In all honesty Brussels you seem lost with the whole oxlade chamberlain transfer. In terms of midfield next season I expect there to be a lot of changing players round like can and ox swapping defensive and attacking roles same for Henderson and gini, formations will change aswell I expect but I'm mentioning Lucas because who else will leave from the centre other than Lucas?

9.) 27 Jun 2017
27 Jun 2017 20:36:10
Joes, I'm not lost on anything. I am giving my opinion and you are free to disagree. Now regarding my response to you. You mentioned Lucas, saying Klopp may need Ox to play the Lucas role, if possible. How is that even possible whereas Ox is not and never will be a DM or a makeshift DM? That's all I'm asking as your posts are incoherent, seen that Ox is an attacking player and Lucas is a true DM.

10.) 27 Jun 2017
27 Jun 2017 22:25:34
Brussels I respect your opinion but don't agree with it that's all, just think though Lucas was attacking midfielder before he joined Liverpool and plus did you ever think of Milner as a left back? Caulker as a forward? Believe it or not what I've heard and believe is oxlade chamberlain is being looked at for central midfield to do work at either end but as I also said to be swapped around with the other 4-5 out and out midfielders we already have.

11.) 28 Jun 2017
28 Jun 2017 07:56:54
I think we are focusing far too much on what he can't do or hasn't developed yet. I'd understand if Ox was 30 but he has all his best years ahead of him and could be a great fit under Klopp's guidance. Ok it may be hard to see where he fits in the starting line-up, but isn't the point that we have guys in the squad who can push each other and compete for starting berth? I woild be careful about how we talk about such things, no one except stevie G before his last season and a half, demand a starting place on name alone.