04 Jun 2017 09:14:06
Ed. Its early days but if we don't sign VVD are we likely to go for an alternative CB? With you explaining how the interest came about on him it would be very strange for us now not to push for other players in the same position? A bit like needing a new car, test driving it and then buying a motorbike. Hope you see what im trying to get at. Is there a plan B?

{Ed001's Note - what if there is no one else around that is going to improve the team and is available? Do you think the club should just buy one anyway?}

1.) 04 Jun 2017
04 Jun 2017 09:19:57
I disagree Ed01. This excuse of " No one else there " doesn't bite me. For the money we were offering to Southampton we could tempt a few heads easily. Gimminez, Monalas, Rudiger. In fact there are plenty in Europe who we could look up to. And I can guarantee all of them are better than Klavan anc Lovren.
It's all about priority.

{Ed001's Note - you can guarantee nothing, don't talk crap.}

2.) 04 Jun 2017
04 Jun 2017 09:28:05
No not for the sake of it mate but just seems strange to me. If we were prepared to spend big on a CB and not to have a back up.

{Ed001's Note - why when it was not a planned move in the first place? If Olivia Munn invites you on a date but you can't make it for some reason, would you have a back up plan? This is not us chasing him, in which case there would be a list of alternatives.}

3.) 04 Jun 2017
04 Jun 2017 09:34:20
That's the problem Ed01. A team who has shipped in record number of goals ain't looking at a good Central defender.

{Ed001's Note - it is all about the centre backs. Defend as a team. Do Southampton have the best centre backs? They had their 3rd and 4th choice centre backs playing for most of the season but conceded very few because of the way they play.}

4.) 04 Jun 2017
04 Jun 2017 09:39:54
Whoever spends the money suggested on VVD is crazy! IF, and I say IF we are after a central defender then we could get better than that if we were willing to pay that crazy fee. That goes for any club interested actually. WAY over rated.

5.) 04 Jun 2017
04 Jun 2017 09:54:59
ED01, Do you suggest we should change the way we play to suit our slow center backs? We play high, press high and high and have very slow CB's who gets dragged out on pace.

{Ed001's Note - only Klavan is slow, that is simply not true. We get caught on the counter because the full backs and midfielders all push on. Most teams that push on the full backs have a deep lying midfielder, or two in Saints' case, that always sit in and make it a 3 or 4 at the back. We take risks, but that is why we score so many as well.}

6.) 04 Jun 2017
04 Jun 2017 09:56:38
Vvd didn't play since january, stephens the 300k signing from southend or summit played and was solid because of thrt3 system.

We can be bett3r bu5 do you not realise are expansive style isn't ideal.

Southampton have a way thay makes any cb look world class. Yoshida and all that.

Also united won the league with smalling, jones and evans. Leis with morgan and huth, chelses with cahill.

Just put it this way. Would you buy a mercedes or a house. And your homeless.

Vvd might be the worlds best but he's not going to be any better than what's there with a shaky gk situation and poor fullbacks. So his signing doesn't really matter, ot never did hence not veing deemed a priority like lb, rb and cm.

Lovren and matip showrd real good signs lasg yeat that they cam be good. Put mendy and per eitherside and keita in front anf they will be outstanding!

7.) 04 Jun 2017
04 Jun 2017 09:57:48
Kloppsred17,
It doesn't matter if we had a 2nd,3rd or 4th option we'd still be negotiating the same way, you only have to look back on previous transfers they way these CLOWNS, sorry FSG, there all drawn out saga's. to were LFC need to go, these owners r not for us.

P. S do any other clubs have drawn out transfer saga's like us.

{Ed001's Note - it is not FSG that deal with it, so why even say that crap? In the case of the one club in the Prem that does have its owners dealing with transfers, things are far worse. Just be glad we are not West Ham.}

8.) 04 Jun 2017
04 Jun 2017 09:58:16
Lol. Lol. I get ya point ed, I know what your saying mate. I guess will see what develops but is it safe to say Citeh have offered over and above we are prepared to go to or is that yet to be confirmed?

{Ed001's Note - I don't know of any offer yet from City. They are interested though.}

9.) 04 Jun 2017
04 Jun 2017 09:59:05
I agree with ed1 on that, it isn't all about your centre backs and the fact we don't play a holding midfielder won't help, although that being said Lovren and Klaven are walking disasters at times.

10.) 04 Jun 2017
04 Jun 2017 09:59:51
Come on Ed001. this is getting daft!

£70m for a centre back and not being able to make a date with Olivia Munn.? Come on what kind of world are we living in?

11.) 04 Jun 2017
04 Jun 2017 10:00:35
Calciomercato say LFC looking at Victor Nilsson Lindelof. 46 mil is the figure mentioned. CDs are bloody expensive.

From VVD to VNL?

12.) 04 Jun 2017
04 Jun 2017 10:09:14
You're right ed I get you you're saying we should sign Stephens and yoshida.

{Ed001's Note - that sounds like the kind of thing Rodgers would have done!}

13.) 04 Jun 2017
04 Jun 2017 10:39:14
Competent fullbacks left and right with pace is what we require to improve our defence. Ones which can provide much needed width too. That will see us with the opportunity to break down those stubborn defences.

Our CB's may not be the best, they are far from the worst. We conceded less goals compared to 15/ 16 so the signs of improvement are there. We went on something like a 13 match unbeaten run with Lovren and Matipwhen they featured together last season.

You can just imagine what a change it would mean for us having proper fullbacks actually making an impact going forward and Mane cutting in from the left, Salah (if he does join) from the right. That is when you will see opposition defences going into melt down not knowing which player to track. Coutinho and Firmino will have a field day too.

Opposition team will be to afraid lodging counters against us as if they lose the ball, there will be no time for them to recover with 11 men in their own box. Two proper fullbacks please, that will without a doubt improve us on a very large scale.

14.) 04 Jun 2017
04 Jun 2017 10:48:50
EDD'S
There is something fundamentally wrong in negotiations if we keep getting gazumped by teams, alas we he from FSG is that we need to be in the CL and when we get in the CL
we negotiate like a corner shop. we're a laughing stock at the minute.

{Ed001's Note - then the man to blame was Ian Ayre in the past and now it is down to the new guy, who has to be given time to get his feet under the table and understand the club.

As for being run like a corner shop, that is nonsense. We have consistently spent large sums, particularly on wages. Laughing stock? Total bollox.}

15.) 04 Jun 2017
04 Jun 2017 10:51:21
Who is Olivia Munn?

16.) 04 Jun 2017
04 Jun 2017 11:09:04
Blimey this convo is getting over the top imo. Sorry ed for asking the initial question mate. I just want what's best for the club and I want us to compete on all fronts next season. We score goals for fun but also ship lots in and from anyone looking at us would say we need improvement in defence and not in the final third yet were on the brink of another attacking mid in Salah for big money and going cheap on fullbacks.