19 Apr 2017 13:37:27
So.
What if the table looks like this after the last match of the season.

Chelsea
Tottenham
Man City
Man United
Liverpool

That would put us in 5th, but then, if united manage to win the europa league, Who will the fourth CL spot go to? 5th place? Cuz the winner of EL will get a CL spot nevertheless if they end up qualifying through their national tournament right?

Because if it does, I recon we still have a very good chance of qualifying even if we miss out on top 4.

{Ed002's Note - That is not how it works. They don't give an additional place if the team has already qualified for the CL.}


1.) 19 Apr 2017
19 Apr 2017 14:02:34
Maximum number of places in the CL is 5.

This is Top 3 plus up to two of the following in this order.

Winner of Champions League
Winner of Europa League
4th Place in Prem

The only way to finish outside the top 4 and qualify is to win one of the European Cups, that is all. Winning the Europa League does not give your country an extra space from their league.


2.) 19 Apr 2017
19 Apr 2017 14:06:01
In that scenario United go straight into group stage without 4th round play-off.


3.) 19 Apr 2017
19 Apr 2017 14:25:53
Remember - the rule works that no-one else can put you in the CL. You have to get 4th and if you dont, you have to win the CL or EL. There is no way in that doesn't require you hitting one of the 3 qualification entry points.


4.) 19 Apr 2017
19 Apr 2017 14:26:28
So if Utd win Europa and we finish 4th then we are in the CL but need to get through a qualifying round?

{Ed002's Note - Yes.}


5.) 19 Apr 2017
19 Apr 2017 17:00:09
Oh. Well just thought it might work that way, let's seal that top 4 spot with a couple of wins then!


6.) 19 Apr 2017
19 Apr 2017 19:50:47
Actually the individual FA's decide who they assign to the champions league places, but generally it's understood to be the top 4 in this country.


7.) 20 Apr 2017
19 Apr 2017 23:59:14
That's a new one on me Ron.

I thought the champions league was for the top finishing teams in all leagues?

So in theory The SFA could nominate Rangers instead of Celtic?

I wouldn't want to be on a stag weekend in Glasgow when that was announced. You'd be safer in Syria.


8.) 20 Apr 2017
20 Apr 2017 00:03:24
That's it TabascoBoy. I've had enough of your sauce.


9.) 20 Apr 2017
20 Apr 2017 01:21:23
The champions league is for teams who won their league and the next 1, 2, or 3 other losers who didnt. oh and I suppose the champions of europa too.


10.) 20 Apr 2017
20 Apr 2017 12:52:52
Apparently true Dermot, I remember it from 2006 when we were holders and not in the top 4. At one point it was between us and Everton and UEFA were going to let the FA sort it out. Eventually a sensible solution was found.
I think the FA's would usually have indicated which positions would get a place before a season kicks off, tic avoid any mess later on.