21 Mar 2017 17:23:18
Why do so many on here always wants to sell our better players and fantasise over the large transfer sums?

"Ooooh what about £60m for Coutinho though. "

I am a football fan. I like football, not money from player sales.

We are not a selling club - at least I hope that is not what we've become.

To hear fans pining to sell our better players is saddening and backs up something that I've thought for along time now - the modern day fan is now more excited about transfer windows and fantasy football signings than the game itself.

Just look at the recent investment and developments around esports. It's a market which has exploded. The result? Fans wanting to sell out of form club players for the lastest flavour of the month star.

Coutinho has struggled since his injury. Hazard was god awful last year, did Chelsea sell him? No and now he isn't tearing up the league once more. Thank god JK doesn't listen to some of you on here!

1.) 21 Mar 2017
21 Mar 2017 17:34:45
Tell me one year that counts had 25 plus good games he hasn't wats his best tally goals and assist wise nothing great wat some people realise is money for counts could be best placed else were to make the team better that's all like edo2 says players are just transient employes.

2.) 21 Mar 2017
21 Mar 2017 18:19:32
Coutinho is one of the best players in the league and up untill his injury he was the best player. His form has dropped and now as the op stated some people want to sell him. craziness. you build your team around him because he is that good. Sell him to another side and when he becomes in the top 5 players in the world the clowns out there will question why we sold him. get a grip people. the lad is a wonderful player so let's appreciate him before he does move on to Barcelona or whoever and becomes a distant memory.

3.) 21 Mar 2017
21 Mar 2017 18:42:09
Exactly Abo, it really is laughable.

Anyway, tell me Mike when has selling one of our players for mega bucks and splashing out on replacements ever worked out?

Carroll? Balotelli? Downing? I could go on.

4.) 21 Mar 2017
21 Mar 2017 20:31:10
Can we stop with the "when has selling our best player ever worked out" stuff? Yeah, Liverpool has a bad recent history. However Klopp does not and he is now our manager!

He sold Gotze and signed Mkhitaryan. He sold Lewandowski and signed Aubameyang. He sold Sahin and signed Gundogan!

This is not Rafa, Comolli or Rodgers picking players anymore.

We have a new scouting team and a new manager making the final decisions. So let's not judge the current regime against past mistakes. Klopp sold Benteke for £30m and signed Mane. He sold Allen and signed Wijnaldum. He sold Skrtel and signed Matip. I'd say he currently has a fairly decent record of replacing first team players. Of the 4 players signed to play in our first team, only Karius hasn't settled in yet.

5.) 21 Mar 2017
21 Mar 2017 22:25:28
This is all ifs and buts and when has klopp said he was selling Phil.

6.) 21 Mar 2017
21 Mar 2017 22:25:45
Mk totally agree the thing is he's not are best player we don't play with a number ten he is played on the left witch his stats are not the best we have players that would do just as good as him at the club already klopp won't change his formation so all i've said is if we are offered 50 plus take it and spend were we need it spending for the great of the team ron keeps saying about when we sold suarez and bought badly that was not klopp do we all trust klopp or not with money.

7.) 21 Mar 2017
21 Mar 2017 23:10:03
Of course he's our best player, he's just not on form. When Phil on his game we the best attacking side in that league.

8.) 22 Mar 2017
22 Mar 2017 00:45:21
Puzzled. Thanks, mate. Post of the day

Unfortunately, it's a sign of the times that flashy dollars and status are just too important to people these days. Obviously that's a different conversation, for a different forum, but i do wish those views wouldn't leak into the football supporters world. Football should be a means of escaping that bullshe*p, 90 mins at a time. Talk about tactics, players, everything. But leave the fifa mentality on the xbox.

9.) 22 Mar 2017
22 Mar 2017 04:12:22
MK Scouser and those agreeing with him/ her: I'm sorry, but it was Zorc, not Klopp, who recruited those players at BvB. Klopp is world class at coaching talent, but it was Zorc who brought in the talent.

LFC has no comparable scout or DOF. So, no, it's a bad analogy between LFC and BvB.

Coutinho, when on form, is one of the best in the world. Ankle injuries, if you've ever had one, are notoriously difficult to recover from quickly. He's obviously struggling with the injury still, given he's being brought off in games early.

There is no way in hell if we sell Coutinho we'll replace him with anyone near his quality. We need to *add* to our existing talent, not subjtract and then roll the dice and hope we score a talent as good as him.

No thanks. If having Klopp means anything, it means not having to constantly sell off our best players.

{Ed001's Note - well said. It is why Dortmund struggled to maintain consistent wins, the constant selling of their best players. You have to hold onto them to progress.}

10.) 22 Mar 2017
22 Mar 2017 07:25:24
MK

Poor comparison mate. Since BVB sold lewa, gotze etc, how many trophies have they won exactly?

11.) 22 Mar 2017
22 Mar 2017 10:22:49
87red, Is that because they sold players, or because Bayern have just ruined German football by stockpiling all the best players in the league?

I can see you point Fear of the Red Planet but I don't agree with the ankle injury statement. His form is like this every season. He always has long baron runs with or without injury because he is being played in a position he is not really meant for.

I am not saying we should sell him, but I just refuse to jump on the "LFC are buggered" bandwagon if we sell Coutinho.

Throwing out random examples of teams who have not improved after selling their best player doesn't really wash with me. In our own league, United sold Ronaldo and continued to dominate for at least 3 years afterwards, an average Spurs sold Bale and built a title challenging side with the profit, Southampton sell their top 3 players every season and year seem to replace them with even better players who this year took them to their first cup final in god knows how long.

It is not impossible to replace your top players. Coutinho being our best player whilst out of position and struggling with form/ injury is more a worrying damnation of the rest of the team than a positive for him.

We should without a doubt try to keep him; which the club are doing. He just got given a record breaking contract. The counter argument that some are presenting though is that we might get an offer of £50m+ for a player who misses a quarter of every season injured, has never hit double figures in the league, and hasn't played to his best since the opening game of this season.

Of course we should persist with him if nobody offers stupid money. He is one of our top players. However his contract alone almost forces him into starting every game now, and in Klopp's current system he really is not justifying that regular game time or wage. You can disagree, but he has been embarrassingly hooked twice in a row now (with a long time still on the clock) for a 17 year old. So Klopp clearly agrees that he is not pulling his weight.

The only way I can see Coutinho and Firmino in the same successful side is if we put Couts in the midfield and sign a new left forward who scores a lot of goals. Otherwise we will just keep struggling to score for long periods of the season. Mane is our only player in the front 3 who I could see scoring a scrappy rebound or a goal mouth scramble. That is why in the tight games we struggle.

12.) 22 Mar 2017
22 Mar 2017 12:27:33
MK,

You can't site what bayern have done as a reason for their failure to win a trophy - otherwise all other german teams might as well as give up if that's the case.

ask yourself this, if BVB still had all of those players - would they have a better chance of ending the bayern domination? absolutely.

you can't use united as an example either. their situation back then was so different to where we are. they were a consistent title winning team whereas we are building towards that. if you're winning titles, losing one player can be remidied. if you continue to lose your best players - torres, suarez, alonso, possible coutinho - you end up exactly where we are.

13.) 22 Mar 2017
22 Mar 2017 12:41:15
MK, we have the best attack in the PL, period. So scoring goals is not our issue as our issues lie elsewhere. I do agree that Couts should be put in midfield as he is better there BUT out wide, he has still been solid for us and was on pace to be PFA Player Of The Year arguably (playing out wide) until the injury to his ankle came. An ankle injury just like knee injuries (I've had a sprained ankle and a surgically repaired knee and they still hurt, 5 years after), are very difficult to overcome and we can't even manage his full recovery cos he has to play as we are low on squad numbers, just like Can has to play with a bad calf.

Cos he's having a dip in form or taking too long to get back to gear cannot be the reason he gets sold just cos people are so short-sighted. We stick with him till he gets back to his best and that should be that. He's not getting sold EVEN for stupid money. Instead, we should get good players in to play with him.