03 Mar 2017
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Liverpool Player Sightings page entitled, Funny how 5 games can change an opinion.

1.) 04 Mar 2017
04 Mar 2017 07:04:54
Find that quite interesting and is why the comparison of Moyes at UTD vs Klopp at LFC win ratios are so skewed.

According to the image posted by Ed033, First 50 games, Klopp ranks 8th best for most points since the Premier League started. Moyes did not even make the top 10. Neither has any other manager of ours before Klopp i. e. Rafa, Houllier, Rodgers etc in their first 50 EPL games done better than Klopp when it comes to most points in first 50 EPL mathces.

My conclusion is that Klopp is taking us into the right direction and with 17 months so far in charge, he should be given a fair crack at it and the opportunity to build his own squad and then he can be judged accordingly. If that takes another 2 summer windows then so be it.

Getting rid of Klopp before his contract ends would be an absolute disaster. There are no quality managers available at this point. It is not like we can go call up the likes of Ancelotti tomorrow as he is not going to join Liverpool anytime soon. Neither will a manager like Conte and anyone wanting Rafa back or who think Rafa will come back are living in La La land. Not going to happen.

We need to stick with Klopp as long as possible and give him the opportunity to try correct the mistakes of the past. After his third season it will become clear whether he has either left us in the same situation as when he took the job or set us up to go onto better things.

Fingers crossed, Klopp will get things right.

2.) 04 Mar 2017
04 Mar 2017 07:23:33
So with Moyes having a better win % at Utd and Van Gaal getting 2 more points in his first 50 games I'm guessing Klopp has no chance.

3.) 04 Mar 2017
04 Mar 2017 08:14:35
Let's complicate things a little bit.

The managers ahead of Klopp in the top 10 for most points in 50 matches in order are Mourinho, Ancelotti, Pellegrini, Ferguson, O'Leary, Keegan and then Van Gaal.

So as it stands, removing every manager who is no longer involved in the EPL, only Mourinho has a better points haul in his first 50 EPL matches than Klopp and Klopp has not had the benefit of completing a full season as yet.

If only Klopp was available from the very start of last season, who knows things might have been different as they currently stand. One thing is for sure, Benteke would not have been a Liverpool player if Klopp joined at the start of last season. As it is, getting rid of Benteke was a headache and would have been interesting to see who Klopp would have signed instead of Benteke should he have decided that he wanted the job at the start of last season.

The predicament Klopp found himself in with the squad which was left from by the previous regime is one that was not going to be easy to fix, especially when Liverpool are not the number one destination for top of the crop players.

The signings Klopp has made so far though, Matip, Wijnaldum and Mane in my opinion represent value for money compared to the players which Klopp moved on. Jury is still out on Grujic and Karius but they still need to be given a crack at it.

It all comes down to this, squad after squad which has featured every season before Klopp arrived was not good enough to win the EPL. Klopp will need time.

4.) 04 Mar 2017
04 Mar 2017 08:50:49
Stats? Isn't it?
End of the day the jury's out for Klopp.
One league cup final loss. One Europa cup final loss.
One league finish didn't qualify for europe.
Knocked out by weaker teams in all other cup comps.
He needs a good league finish, Europa as minimum.
Simple as that?

5.) 04 Mar 2017
04 Mar 2017 09:04:52
Simple quesion do you think he has showed enough alongside the team to have next season?

Yes. Title challengers after 1 pre season and 3 firdt team signings.

Next summer is another season wih klopp. Another pre season ans probably another 2 or 3 first tean players.

6.) 04 Mar 2017
04 Mar 2017 09:11:31
Nothing is simple when it comes to being manager of LFC kaip and the jury would be out on any other manager who takes the LFC job especially when Liverpool have been a club in decline for way over two decades now.

If Klopp was sent packing now, which manager do we bring in to try fix things? Are we going to expect that manager to win the League straight away? We will not find a manager more suited the the LFC job than Klopp at this point and along with that, we will struggle to appoint a manager with the CV of Mourinho, Guardiola, Ancelotti etc etc etc.

If we are going to employ a manager to just get us to finish top 4 every season then what is the point in getting rid of Klopp before his contract is up? Winning the league should be the prize we aim for and that most likely would not have happened if we even employed a manager like Guardiola. It is not like he has had an easy task at Man City in his first season when City have a better squad than us.

Can you imagine Guardiola managing the same squad Klopp took over from Rodgers last season? He probably would have laughed at FSG if they ever approached him to take over from Rodgers.

Klopp was well aware that he would be under pressure from the very start when he was made our manager. The Liverpool job comes with pressure, loads of it. There was pressure on Klopp last season, there is pressure this season and there will be pressure next season.

The jury has been out on every manager before Klopp? So who do we get to replace him?

7.) 04 Mar 2017
04 Mar 2017 09:21:09
Managers should be judged on their record in competitions. it really is simple as that mun.

8.) 04 Mar 2017
04 Mar 2017 09:31:51
See you cannot answer a simple question kaip.

Managers should be judged on what they have achieved in their careers. Klopp has been in charge for 17 months at Liverpool.

How many trophies has Liverpool won in the last ten years kaip and has Klopp had enough time at this point to try find a solution to take the club forward?

9.) 04 Mar 2017
04 Mar 2017 09:40:26
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Yes
Don't hate mun its only my view.

10.) 04 Mar 2017
04 Mar 2017 09:49:39
I am not hating your view. You say the jury is out on Klopp when I have stated the jury would be out on any other manager who takes the LFC job but you give no solutions.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions but to just moan and say it is as simple as that makes arguing with you like arguing with a brick wall.

11.) 04 Mar 2017
04 Mar 2017 10:25:12
I don't moan, the wife does.
Managers are judged on their record in competitions, Klopps so far is underwhelming. that's fact mun.