28 Feb 2017 01:05:34
Klopp needs help not criticism. I cannot believe we are already losing our belief in probably the only decent Manager we can attract. Our problems lie quite obviously with the squad.

It is an incomplete team lacking major investment through the spine of the team complementing what we have already got. Yes, there will be few worth letting go of but on the whole, we need a large squad of capable players working with a new spine (GK, CB, M, CF) .

I prefer we stop doing major rebuilds on unknown, unproven prem league, squad players and work with what we got and spend the money (assuming FSG want to instead of baseball) on four ready made, marquee, finished article, players on the spine of the team, paying the going rate and just accept it as an investment in success.

It will always cost of money, because we are competing with other teams bigger and more consistently successful than us, so FSG either need to accept it or just sell the club to another owner that can invest in the squad properly and take us to the next level.

The club is a valuable asset but success on the pitch is the only way to ensure that asset remains attractive because I may be loyal (old) and support the team with or without success but the current generation will get tired of this if this under whelming lack of success.


1.) 28 Feb 2017
28 Feb 2017 02:44:22
I agree. We need to bring in players who are ready to to step up straight to the first team and improve it; no more potential this summer please; let the guys who have potential first step up (if they ever will) before bringing in more potential.


2.) 28 Feb 2017
28 Feb 2017 02:21:18
It's not players, Klopp overestimate the squad depth and exacerbate it by exiling Sakho. This shoe lack of maturity and a lack if guile or Machiavellian smarts, just look at way Pep play it with Toure. A good manager know when to retract and use a player, if need be settle the player during summer, not when season ongoing.


3.) 28 Feb 2017
28 Feb 2017 02:37:02
Ed1 agreed with klopp being chosen, ed2 said he didn't think it was the best choice when he came first. Ed2 also said time and time again klopp has no plan b which wouldbmean he's not world class?

{Ed001's Note - so what? This plan B stuff is just irrelevance. When did Paisley have a plan B? Fergie was different purely because he allowed his number two, who changed regularly, to set up the vast majority of things, so his system evolved with the change of number two, rather than him having separate plans. If you play plan A well enough, you don't need a plan B. Titles are never won with a plan B ever.}


4.) 28 Feb 2017
28 Feb 2017 03:54:04
Dont like quoting the man but Ferguson admitted having todrop a striker for an extra man in midfield, so if that's not plan B its adapting to situations.


5.) 28 Feb 2017
28 Feb 2017 03:56:59
Sorry I replied without seeing u mention Fergie. So Klopps plan A isn't good enough?

{Ed001's Note - no, the plan A is not being executed properly by the players. They are complacent.}


6.) 28 Feb 2017
28 Feb 2017 04:09:53
If plan b isn't needed, and plan a doesn't beat the lower sides what do you expect exactly?

{Ed001's Note - I expect a change in playing staff to players that will put more effort in. Some leadership other than Hendo, for starters. I really don't see why people are getting so carried away. Did you all think Klopp had cracked it with the same donkeys Rodgers had flooded the squad with? Surely everyone knew this was going to be a long hard road, littered with speed bumps along the way, until the team could be sorted out?}


7.) 28 Feb 2017
28 Feb 2017 04:44:25
Couldn't agree more, Ed001.

Anyone calling for Klopp's head at this stage are absolutely embarrassing themselves.

Fact is, this squad is simply not good enough. Where Klopp can be faulted is in overestimating what we have.

We need significant upgrades in pretty much every major area, including midfield. We still need a MF who can dictate play and takeover matches like prime Gerrard/ Alonso. That isn't Lallana, and it isn't Hendo.

{Ed001's Note - Lallana only turns up when we are in control of a game, he has never once stood up to be counted when we are struggling. He needs to either fix that or be moved on. Last night he got himself too far forward too early and ended up blocking Mane's space up constantly in the early stages of the match. Wijnaldum does his job, but he is also not taking games by the scruff of the neck. You are right, we lack a midfielder who does that. Hendo does it to a small degree, but he simply can't do it all alone. For all the talk about Gerrard, he never did either, he always had players to help him, the Kuyts etc who stood up and were counted, even if they weren't top class. They were reliable, which is something we lack now, we have too many players who can't be relied on game after game.}


8.) 28 Feb 2017
28 Feb 2017 05:03:41
What is with this worship of Sakho? What the hell did he do when he was here to obtain this unwavering support from our fans? He is a player that has struggled with attitude and discipline issues throughout his career and that is why he was shipped out. Decent player, but people overrate and talk of him as if he was the messiah and the answer to all our solutions. On top of that, he made plenty of mistakes as a player on the pitch, but people overlooked them because he was for some reason a fan favorite. The same thing is happening now with Matip, who has had a quarter of a good season and has been poor since his return to the team, and already he is immune to criticism, while Lovren gets all the flak (not that Lovren is a great player or anything) .


9.) 28 Feb 2017
28 Feb 2017 12:54:16
Why are people surprised over the defending all of a sudden? Not the first time we have let in goals! More worried this team ain't creating anything up front not scoring. Did we not concede 4 against Bournemouth recently?