12 Feb 2017 09:28:03
Sturridge has had a huge opportunity through Dec and January with injuries and Mane out to ACON. I think he failed to take the chance to nail a first team place. I don't think he's been terrible but he hasn't scored or done enough. I can't help but think, do we need him anymore?

{Ed001's Note - it takes a long time to return from the injury he had, he deserves our support not writing off.}

1.) 12 Feb 2017
12 Feb 2017 10:29:35
Ed the symptoms he has shown ie lack of pace and sharpness where apparent last year. My example is the euro final.

Thats what 8 months and a full pre season ago. How long do you think this will take?

{Ed001's Note - it can take years mate, Falcao is a good example, he has only just started to get back to his best this season. How many years has it been since his knee op? Is it 3 or 4? Something like that. It is a long road back as you even have to mentally reprogram yourself to run properly.}

2.) 12 Feb 2017
12 Feb 2017 10:33:02
He was about as useless as I've seen, lad will be off in summer.

{Ed001's Note - then you have not been watching footie for more than about ten minutes, if Studger is as useless as you have seen.}

3.) 12 Feb 2017
12 Feb 2017 10:44:00
'useless as I've seen' Very harsh and false.

I as many, I'm frustrated about it and I do agree I think his time with us is about up, but at the moment he's a Liverpool player and deserves support.

My opinion, we can all make excuses for him, but for how long? he's getting paid wages most of us would dream for yet he's doing nothing in return. I don't think he fits Klopps system and I don't think he's good enough for Liverpool anymore. He was fantastic the season with Suarez and that was it, ever since he's never been at his best. We need to cash in on him but for now I wish the lad the best of luck with us, I'd love to be proved wrong and see him smashing in god knows how many from now till the end of the season but it won't happen.

4.) 12 Feb 2017
12 Feb 2017 11:39:35
No one can doubt Studge's ability, he's awesome. But he doesn't seem to fit the Klopp style of play. Top teams unfortunately don't have the luxury to wait years for players to return to form from fitness, especially if they want to win trophies. I think Klopp will want to buy a striker that fits his system and cash in on Studge in the Summer.

5.) 12 Feb 2017
12 Feb 2017 11:38:13
To be fare though ed. Falcaos return to form has weirdly coincided with him moving back to a weaker league?

He couldn't cut it at chelsea or united.

Maybe studge can't with us and needs to move?

And for every falcao there is a torres who never got it back.

The problem is the following points.

Sturridge game was built around 5 yards of rediculous pace and clinical finishing with the space that gained him.

If that's gone then he's still a good player.

He can't play up top anymore because without the pace he comes far to deep to get on the ball.

Without his pace for us and how we play. is he better than adam, phil, rob and saddi?

Is he better back up than origi? 20 minutes left you usually want pace to come on.

So maybe he's just not suited for us anymore but still could have a good career elsewhere

Do me a fabour. The next time you watch him play or look at some highlights there is a run in behind and his left leg looks to go on him and he's starts pulling back.

Is he scared about injuring it or did the operation he had where he was sent to america under brendan as they thought they found the route to his injury problems cause it?

He came back scored against west ham, played a few games and then they sent him for his operation because alongside the recovery time he would be due back for preseason and fresh for the upcoming campaign and when he retured he never has that yard of pace.

I don't know but im not imagining his running issues.

6.) 12 Feb 2017
12 Feb 2017 12:10:34
Good debate. Ed's right that it can take along time for injuries like this to heal and to get back to fitness. At the same time though lot of Sturridges movements rely on his ability to shift weight on is knees and ankles quickly. For me watching him at the moment, there's a lack of confidence there, and currently a lack of pace, he does look slower.
Falcao rushed himself back. I think after his injury he was back playing withing 8months which was just f'ing ridiculous as in seriously stupid, how any medical team let him play is beyond my mind. usually acl's take about a year or so to simply recover from, building the strength in the surrounding muscles etc.

Ultimately I don'tfeel Sturridge has a place in our team, but it's not due to his injury I just don't think he does the dirty work Klopp likes his forwards to, and we tend to have a slower build up in possession and look to shift it out wide than central again, rather than straight in behind. If he goes he goes, if he stays he stays.

I've said before I think we can get a replacement for him in the squad that fits better, and won't be out as much. Idon'tpersonally see the point in having a bench/ 1st team player that's only fir for 33% of available games. But Studge has quality.

7.) 12 Feb 2017
12 Feb 2017 12:05:12
Daniel will win the title at Arsenal, What they need is a striker of his quality.

8.) 12 Feb 2017
12 Feb 2017 12:45:23
Spot on, Cleanred. Falcao was desperate to play at the WC in 2014 and hence, rushed himself back and it took 3 years for him to actually get to where he is now. Studge did not have a devastating injury like Falcao did, I'm sorry. Even if Studge was fit, do you see him putting in the serious kilometers that Firmino put in last night? That would be a NO so don't know what the excuses are for really? I know he has been injured and has been struggling for form. Dec was his time to get it right as he got chances to play and sadly for all parties, he didn't step up. We can make excuses for him all we want but the last time he was on form for a decent period of time was 13/ 14 season, 3/ 4 years ago, a small eternity in football terms. The issue is simple. If you cannot play the game the way we did vs Spurs last night (the standard moving forward), then LFC under Klopp, is not for you, period. That doesn't make you a bad player. It just means you don't fit our style and if you don't fit in, what are you still doing here and why exactly should we keep you?

9.) 12 Feb 2017
12 Feb 2017 14:29:00
Spot on noah. Its not becauses he hated or a bad player but he's just not suited to us anymore.

He just had 2 months of games and can anyone name atleast 1 momen5 where you rhought bang he's still back. Or did you see any imorovment in fitness/ sharpness as the games went on. I didnt.

Hes a proffessional footballer who trains week in week out with klopp! It can't take this long to get your fitness back and if it is maybe he should start doing more. Gett8ng a personal trainer and doing private work alongside normal stuff.

Or ask for a loan just a short one to go and bang the goals in like the chanpionship. Get some confidence and that.

Its not really an excuse and injury 18 months ago for me. Take control of the situation yourself and start working your ass off.

{Ed001's Note - you really have no idea. Utter and complete nonsense. This is the kind of crap that I would expect from S*n 'journalists' not from supposed fans. If you think it is that easy, then you are so completely ignorant of the truth it is pathetic. I am sick of the modern day 'supporter' who just wants to jump on a player's back for no reason. Sturridge works hard and deserves our support. You should start educating yourself instead of wasting everyone's time with this ignorant crap.}

10.) 12 Feb 2017
12 Feb 2017 14:34:25
Harry lol they have Sanchez.

11.) 12 Feb 2017
12 Feb 2017 16:18:34
Well said ed1 mate.

12.) 12 Feb 2017
12 Feb 2017 17:20:34
I feel if we went back to a formation of 4231 he could still do a job up front, but he's still well short of fitness, I agree with ed he needs support from us, top professional who has nothing but respect for the club and klopp, well worth keeping hold of.

13.) 12 Feb 2017
12 Feb 2017 18:03:19
He's clearly not "match fit".
Physical fitness he may have, but he's always struck me as an 'instinct-player'.
It's hard to get your match-fitness back when you are not first choice, he needs a run of 10 games of 90 minutes with the first team.
Anyone who thinks we need "another Mane" well they don't come with more suitability to that role than Sturridge. He has pace, he can finish and he has an instinct for goals.

14.) 12 Feb 2017
12 Feb 2017 18:19:48
You have your view ed but you think having 6 months at newcastle as a starter would of be a disaster? Do you not think he should be doing extra fitness work?

If his injury was as bad as you believe and its going to take this much time then what's sitting on the bench doing for him. If noone else gets injred frow now until the end of the season then how does he get in the team?

Ramsey was sent on loan after his leg breaker. a lot of top players have been on loan. I think it would of been a good move. Play all games for the rest of the season, get ya confidence back and smash in a ton of goals.

Confused why that's utter crap but hey im not an ed 😊.

{Ed001's Note - so you think he is not doing the fitness work set for him by the fitness coaches? You think they have not set limits on the amount he does, so he does not do irreparable damage to his body? Like I said you are ignorant in this matter. You haven't a clue what you are talking about but are calling the lad lazy for not doing what someone who is pig ignorant of his circumstances deems to be the right thing. He is not Ramsey, he does not have a broken leg and to even compare the two is laughable and shows that this is a pointless discussion, if you think the two had in any way comparable injuries and recovery issues.

I fail to see why everyone is so busy digging out Sturridge when he has done everything possible, and taken the time to help others out in their recovery. Studger is one of the good guys in football.}

15.) 12 Feb 2017
12 Feb 2017 18:33:54
Ive shared the info I got last year at the Cheltenham festival from some sporting agents in the Ladbrokes box, info that came via Sturridges family, from what i've seen this last year i've no reason at all to disbelieve it and the fellas I spoke to didn't strike me as the type to tell lies either.
He's going in the summer i've no doubt about that at all, shame as I always liked the lad but he's no good on the bench or the treatment table all the while.

16.) 14 Feb 2017
14 Feb 2017 12:15:41
Ed are you not one who hates this red zone nonsence?

I didn't say he wasnt doing the work set out for him. i said whys he not doing extra. Trying differemct things/ methods like swimming, yoga, meditation. it sounds daft but that'd what i mean taking a grip of the situation seing your not fit enough or sharp enough and maybe finding another way of getting there without doing a lot of running.
An issue i think it is though for studge is below

Gerrars and sturridge himself have said that he/ i need to be 100% fit and stevie said that during the 13/ 14 season the battle of players like suarez was what ebcourage daniel to play through some niggles.

He said it himself last year when he returned from injury played a game and was injured again (november time klopps first months) . remember klopp having a proper go at him in the media and making him sort of renounce the injury and a week later this hanstring injury had gone. Ssturrixge did an interview after the match and sort of gave a nod to the i have to be 100% fit to be at my best but i think klopps said to him being at 70/ 80% will mean you can be avaliable a lot more becauze injuries and nigglwa are going to happen all throuvh your career and they have devised this training plan for him. which just is not working.

So maybe its up to Daniel to take charge of the situation.

{Ed001's Note - nothing to do with zones and everything to do with his body being simply unable to cope with more. I know what is being said publicly, but there is a lot more to it than that.}