07 Feb 2017 18:03:05
Ed001,
I read in a few places the arguments of go out and spend loads and get anyone to fix the gaps or wait and find the right player for the team and Klopp style (I think you're in this group looking at replies below) .
My question for you is do you believe he will find the right players when you look at his purchases here and when he was in Germany?
Thanks mate, the site seems to be really heating up lately so you must be flat to the mat.

{Ed001's Note - I trust Klopp and his team, it is our scouting dept that I do not trust. So I am not sure they will present him with the right players to choose. He had a good team helping with recruitment in Germany, I am not sure that he has the same at Liverpool.}


1.) 07 Feb 2017
07 Feb 2017 18:43:26
Ed001, I reckon we had one of our best summers, the one which just passed in a very long time. We got rid of loads of players who were never going to take this club anywhere and added players who present more value. I have nothing against Joe Allen, I would rather have Wijnaldum in the team, all we need him to do is get his arse into the box!

Pretty sure Klopp would have recommended Matip, especially with him coming from the Bundesliga? Who knows.

What I am thankful for is that Klopp did not go bananas in the January window when he made it clear that the players he was after were not available and in return did not waste squad space and funds on players who would have likely been fit for the bench. We do not need players who are happy to sit back and collect their pay.

Think there is more direction with Klopp at the helm when it comes to Klopp having the final say. He has made use of all the players he has signed this season except for Grujic who unfortunately has been injured.

Luckily we did not see signings like Markovic at a ridiculous fee and with no intention to see the player succeed which has lead to complete failure for the club and the player.

We need to finally start getting things right in the transfer market otherwise there will eventually be no way back for LFC.

{Ed001's Note - I agree.}


2.) 07 Feb 2017
07 Feb 2017 19:18:51
Ed would you ever think that JK could change the scouting set up? Yes I understand that there all ready has been a shake up.

{Ed001's Note - it will have to be changed and I am sure he will see that. So yes, I expect him to change it.}


3.) 07 Feb 2017
07 Feb 2017 20:10:03
Eds1 your posts give me confidence.

{Ed002's Note - Are you sure it is not wind?}


4.) 07 Feb 2017
07 Feb 2017 21:43:25
You would think if FSG want to follow the model of buying young players who we can add value to, it would make sense to hire the best recruitment team available. Who can recommend these young players or players in lower leagues who are not well known (Kante for example) .
However, if they did get such a system in place no doubt there would be criticism that we are buying unknown players instead of superstars and wouldn't give them a chance to prove themselves. I guess for every Kante and Mahrez there's a Biscan and Cheyrou.

{Ed002's Note - This is truly not how it works.}


5.) 07 Feb 2017
07 Feb 2017 23:02:40
Well said Max, I think last summer was one of our best summers in many Seasons in terms of bringing in quality that actually fit the side. Hopefully this one will be as effective and we only need 3-4 top signings to make a big difference. Quite a few players were given the chance to prove themselves but dropped the ball badly and/ or have come to the end of the road IMO (Moreno, Migs, Sturridge, Lucas and possibly even Lovren, Can and Stewart) . That should hopefully some transfer fees to bring in fresh players, as well as space for youngsters to step up.

I trust Klopp to have figured out what he's missing given it's been glaringly obvious we've struggled with Migs, Sturridge, Lovren, Moreno, Can and then when Hendo, Coutinho, Matip and Mane were out injured in particular.


6.) 08 Feb 2017
08 Feb 2017 08:31:46
Worst thing we did last summer was fail to sign a proven top quality keeper. It's fairly obvious that part of our problem in defence is that no-one has confidence in our current keepers be that down to them being rubbish (Mignolet) or inexperienced (Karius) .

It's OK Mignolet being the hero and saving the occasional penalty but his pish poor effort for the 1st goal on Saturday is his default setting and has been for the past 3 seasons.

Karius may come good - I hope he does - but we needed experience in summer not potential.

Bad decisions yet again by someone at the club.

{Ed002's Note - Klopp got the goalkeepert he wanted in the summer.}


7.) 08 Feb 2017
08 Feb 2017 09:18:58
Bandit, FSG don't practise that system nor do they indulge in the Moneyball nonsense as that has been debunked by the Eds many times so repeating the same thing, doesn't make it true.

Now regarding the OP's post, Klopp said in an interview with Jaime Redknapp at Christmas, "Managing a club is already difficult. Now if you do what everyone wants you to do then it becomes impossible and you have no chance". This sums up Klopp's ethos regarding transfers and I fully support him in this.

LFC of all clubs, know what it is like to panic buy and live to pay the price so no need to delve into any of that. Many just want us to sign someone, anyone regardless of how he will help the team, if he has the technical, physical and mental attributes, his eagerness to work hard for the shirt etc. Then when the player signed to appease the fans, starts struggling, he will get the blame for not waiting till the summer if he found no value in Jan. See how the hindsight geniuses are never wrong?

Klopp has shown that if he wants a player, he will do all in his power and FSG will provide the funds to get him. When he wanted Mane and he would be worth 34m, many like me said he wasn't worth it.

Mane's deal was done in 10 days. Also, those moaning have conveniently forgotten that Klopp last Jan, went after Alex Texeira like crazy and only walked away after Donetsk refused to budge on the price. Moral of the story? If Klopp thinks there is a player that can improve us, he will do all he can to get him in winter or summer but the moaners just don't get it.

I agree that we need the right players to improve us and I trust Klopp to do that as he has brought in Mane and Matip who have improved us BUT our scouting needs to improve and massively if we will be getting rough diamlonds like Ngolo Kante, who LC got when people didn't even know who he was or where he was from prior to.


8.) 08 Feb 2017
08 Feb 2017 10:04:06
Problem with scouts network is they are like leeches that stayed too long, removing them will take effort and pain. They are like good old servants who ain't contributing but knows important people in club.


9.) 08 Feb 2017
08 Feb 2017 13:21:14
I get that Ed002 but wouldn't a better scouting team have said "Ok, he's one for the future - great - but we think you need one for right now as well"

{Ed002's Note - Karius is not "one for the future" - he is Liverpool's first choice goalkeeper.}