07 Jan 2017 15:15:57
Alright eddie and fellow reds.

Ed any chance of getting your 2 cents on why illori has not managed to cement a starting birth at any of the clubs he has been at? I know inexperience and injury would be a part of it while out on loan, but he has never really kicked on from the lad we bought.
He seems like a decent tackler, good on the ball and can pick a pass (trys to force them at times for me) . But their has to be 1 or 2 major flaws in his game, as no manager seems to give him more then a few first team appearances per season, even though for me he has not looked out of place while on the pitch, never had an outstanding game where I've said we have something special on our hands here, but I do believe that a CB does not need to stand to be a good player.

Is he not strong enough, positinally not good enough, not strong enough in the air, not good enough at reading what's in front of him, invites to much pressure while in the ball, attatude, what is it that is missing from his game in your opinion?

Also interested in my fellow reds opinions on the lad. just not interested in the IT'S RODGERS FAULT brigade.

I really did have a hope of having a CB with pace to hold the high line, it would work so well with klopps press and a compact pitch.

Hope you have the time to compose a piece on this, but even if you don't thanks for all the work you put into the site on a daily basis.

{Ed002's Note - Try the search engine - this has been covered over and over.}


1.) 07 Jan 2017
07 Jan 2017 16:40:27
Overweight and a bit lazy


2.) 07 Jan 2017
07 Jan 2017 20:48:50
Ed001 has mentioned on a couple of occasions that Michael Beale was trying to get him a chance in the first team before he left, but I guess you have more information on his situation 🤔.


3.) 07 Jan 2017
07 Jan 2017 21:27:15
Not given a chance initially, then he suffered a string of injuries, seemingly lost motivation for a while as his fitness was wavering and effort seemed to be lacking, before finally he found his feet over the last 12 months and put in some brilliant performances for the ressies to very deservingly earn a move to a good club at a competitive level of football.

I wish him all the luck in the world and regret massively how poorly his career was managed by Liverpool. He has been severely let down. Selling him is the first decent thing we have done for his career.


4.) 09 Jan 2017
09 Jan 2017 03:46:02
Spot on, MK. The way he was let down and lied to by BR was disgusting and a huge embarassment.