14 Dec 2016 21:46:17
Someone needs to tell lallana he's English and supposed to be over rated not actually perform that well mate lol.


1.) 14 Dec 2016
14 Dec 2016 21:53:08
Lallana is atrocious

Don't know what he adds to the team

Cant pick a pass, too many touches on the ball and doesn't score enough.


2.) 14 Dec 2016
14 Dec 2016 22:30:34
Lol nice one agger, how shocking was migs today though? he let's in the first shot on target, makes basic saves and belongs in the championship, it was a mistake dropping Karius.


3.) 14 Dec 2016
14 Dec 2016 22:59:20
Are we all getting sarcasm posts now!? We've had a breakthrough! 😉.


4.) 14 Dec 2016
14 Dec 2016 23:12:21
I'm one of the people who used to say that Lallana has too many touches, can't pick a pass and doesn't score enough, and boy oh boy I'm loving how he's proving me wrong this season.


5.) 14 Dec 2016
14 Dec 2016 23:19:07
Mignolet is still shite.

How do people forget what he has been like since he joined us.

Big mistake dropping karius today.

Stuck now, karius comes back in and everyone will be on mignolets side, pressure will be on, and he will be trying so hard to not make a mistake that he will probably make loads.

Or why drop mignolet, even thought he is certaintly not the long term answer after 3 years. People forget karius was bought to replace him because he was so crap. But can't get rid if he's not doing anything wrong, even without doing much right.

And finally didn't send a good messgae to all the youngsters that when (and we all know how inconsistent they can be) they are inconsistent there going to be dropped. Karous needed supporting through this period (he wasnt getting it off the blood thirsty "best fans in the world") but needed it from his manager, not in the press and then dropping. just shut up and keep playing him. Take a stand, he's your number1.


6.) 14 Dec 2016
14 Dec 2016 23:28:34
Karius will stay out of the team until mignolet goes through a sticky patch, it's why you have more than one gk. I think klopp did the right thing for the record, he needs to be out of the spotlight for a little while.


7.) 14 Dec 2016
14 Dec 2016 23:30:11
Supermane I've been saying since mignolet was dropped that I don't remember him being that bad. Sure he wasn't the best under a high ball and his kicking wasn't like reina. but he is a top class shot stopper. The most important part of a keepers game. Saving bloody shots. Karius was under far too much pressure and really under the spot light. He needed to be taken out.


8.) 14 Dec 2016
14 Dec 2016 23:50:26
Its what a squad is for.
For the past few seasons Migs wasn't performing but was under no pressure of losing his place.
Klopp dropped him preseason and gave Karius A chance.
That has hopefully given Migs the kick inthe arse he needs to wake up and realise that he Iis only as good as his last save.
Karius will know that when he gets another chance he will have to step up.

Thanks to Klopp complacency seems to be on the way out.

The same applies to Sturridge with Origi, etc.


9.) 15 Dec 2016
14 Dec 2016 23:57:01
No ones forgotten how bad mignolet has been the past 3 seasons but some of us aren't going to give Karius the double standard treatment. I'm not saying mignolet is the solution to our problems at the back but he is an option, an option that some have merely dismissed as if he's the worst second choice keeper we have ever had. If Karius was our second choice goalkeeper in previous seasons where mignolet has made consistent mistakes then no one would have any qualms about dropping him for Karius even in his first season. And so far, saying Karius is better than mignolet is a myth and has no substance, SO FAR. Would I personally have dropped Karius, yes, I believe his confidence was effecting his performance and it was costing us points. Moreno, mignolet, Milner, Henderson etc have all been lambasted and have been told to get out of the club when they have made mistakes or costed us games yet the same people say we should support and back Karius. I agree that we should support and back Karius but the double standards is embarrassing, he deserved the criticism he received but he doesn't deserve to get slated the way he did, neither do any of the players listed above. I think this will take him out of the limelight and help him concentrate on improving his game rather than trying not to make a mistake. He put himself out there by making certain comments so I do not understand this whole stance against Carragher saying he's sold his soul just because he's doing his job and criticised a player who has been shaky ever since preseason, no one said a word when he went in on Moreno or mignolet. Most people would drop Karius in this circumstance, it's just the way it is, and it had more pros than cons for me. Mignolet isn't the answer and I'm sure he will have a bad game but migs does the basics better at this very point in time. He may not be good with his feet but he can actually make good saves regardless of what some would lead you to believe. We can all agree we need to give it time and definitely reassess in the summer if it continues this way, but don't make Karius undroppable because we will suffer with that mentality.


10.) 15 Dec 2016
14 Dec 2016 23:58:50
If you are inconsistent you should be dropped to work on your inconsistencies . that's not a negative message to the youngsters, its an incentive to perform to your best every single game.


11.) 15 Dec 2016
15 Dec 2016 00:22:37
No no no. Seriously am I reading this, literally guys when you think you have seen it all.

1st point. If mignolet was such a top class shot stopper then why would he have been replaced. Forget any other trait, if he stop shots aswel as you all think then he would be the undisputed number one. He is a terrible shot stopper. Like 90 first appearances 112 goals conceded. 50 in one season aswel. 50 Goals. And before anyone blames the defence. We should be allowed a rubbish defence with such a great shot stopper, like those lads over at united. What is it we say you without de gea you would be terrible. De gea saved use today. You only made top 4 because of de gea. Tell me when one you have heard or said without mignolet today we would of got smashed. Never not once.

2 d point. Ed001 where are ya lad. You can't be reading this and not having your fingers itching to make a response. Come on explain to these fools just how bad mignolet is.

3rd point. So you make a mistake and should be dropped. Ok. That doesn't work with a goal keeper. Have you ever dome the same task with and without pressure. Maybe threw something like a bit of popcorn and had it land somewhere incredible and then tried to do it again now your trying and failed or tried not to laugh when your told don't laugh even if something not funny just because the pressure is on. Karius knows because were so tough that he has been bad and dropped for it and now if he gets back in, he will try that much harder to not make a mistake to make sure he doesn't get dropped again (like he should for being bad because that's what we DO) that more mistakes will come, the crowd will be hunting for them r the bellends they have been and ****ing carra will be there with his big sly gob banging on about it and having the chukkle brothers joining him. Terrible.

Bravoo been dropped? HM. No. faith? Trust? Another chance.

We have a kid in goal who through years of knowledge is at least 8/ 10 years from his prime as a gk. In a new league. Away from family. A team going for the league In one of the most competitive ever. And a group of fans gunning for him like they do when they laughed when Brendan said origi could be world class, or hendo was rubbish and the many more there been.

He needed klopps support because right not that's all he has. He can hear the fans moaning, the pundits criticising him (as proved by his reaction interview) probably no mum or dad with him / friends. Unfamilar surroudings.

Oh well. Stuck with migs, dint come crying when he needs dropping.

{Ed001's Note - I have given up on the goldfish with short term memory problems. Mignolet was awful and we had ALL accepted he needed to be replaced if we are ever to win the title. Bringing him back is not the answer.}


12.) 15 Dec 2016
15 Dec 2016 05:14:00
@Kman - sorry but talk of a double-standard is complete and utter drivel. Karius hasn't even been at the club 6 months and hasn't even been available for all of them due to breaking his hand. Mignolet has had years to cement the goalkeeping position and has failed spectacularly. Klopp stuck by him a lot but never saw improvement - Karius was brought to replace him and needs the backing of both manager and, more importantly, the fans. He isn't getting it and his confidence will be worse as a result.

There is a double-standard - Mignolet has had dreadful games consistently before yet still maintained his place: Karious has 2 bad games and it's to the bench with him - that is a double-standard. Those using last nights game as some sort of vindication for dropping Karius need their head testing - Mignolet had literally nothing of note to do, nothing. He kept a clean sheet yes but do you honestly think if Karius was in his position he wouldn't? Karius needs support above all else - if only so we can see whether or not he is a viable long-term solution - dropping him at the first sight of pressure will not tell us anything and will do the player more harm than good.


13.) 15 Dec 2016
15 Dec 2016 00:22:37
No no no. Seriously am I reading this, literally guys when you think you have seen it all.

1st point. If mignolet was such a top class shot stopper then why would he have been replaced. Forget any other trait, if he stop shots aswel as you all think then he would be the undisputed number one. He is a terrible shot stopper. Like 90 first appearances 112 goals conceded. 50 in one season aswel. 50 Goals. And before anyone blames the defence. We should be allowed a rubbish defence with such a great shot stopper, like those lads over at united. What is it we say you without de gea you would be terrible. De gea saved use today. You only made top 4 because of de gea. Tell me when one you have heard or said without mignolet today we would of got smashed. Never not once.

2 d point. Ed001 where are ya lad. You can't be reading this and not having your fingers itching to make a response. Come on explain to these fools just how bad mignolet is.

3rd point. So you make a mistake and should be dropped. Ok. That doesn't work with a goal keeper. Have you ever dome the same task with and without pressure. Maybe threw something like a bit of popcorn and had it land somewhere incredible and then tried to do it again now your trying and failed or tried not to laugh when your told don't laugh even if something not funny just because the pressure is on. Karius knows because were so tough that he has been bad and dropped for it and now if he gets back in, he will try that much harder to not make a mistake to make sure he doesn't get dropped again (like he should for being bad because that's what we DO) that more mistakes will come, the crowd will be hunting for them r the bellends they have been and ****ing carra will be there with his big sly gob banging on about it and having the chukkle brothers joining him. Terrible.

Bravoo been dropped? HM. No. faith? Trust? Another chance.

We have a kid in goal who through years of knowledge is at least 8/ 10 years from his prime as a gk. In a new league. Away from family. A team going for the league In one of the most competitive ever. And a group of fans gunning for him like they do when they laughed when Brendan said origi could be world class, or hendo was rubbish and the many more there been.

He needed klopps support because right not that's all he has. He can hear the fans moaning, the pundits criticising him (as proved by his reaction interview) probably no mum or dad with him / friends. Unfamilar surroudings.

Oh well. Stuck with migs, dint come crying when he needs dropping.

{Ed001's Note - I have given up on the goldfish with short term memory problems. Mignolet was awful and we had ALL accepted he needed to be replaced if we are ever to win the title. Bringing him back is not the answer.}


14.) 15 Dec 2016
15 Dec 2016 05:14:00
@Kman - sorry but talk of a double-standard is complete and utter drivel. Karius hasn't even been at the club 6 months and hasn't even been available for all of them due to breaking his hand. Mignolet has had years to cement the goalkeeping position and has failed spectacularly. Klopp stuck by him a lot but never saw improvement - Karius was brought to replace him and needs the backing of both manager and, more importantly, the fans. He isn't getting it and his confidence will be worse as a result.

There is a double-standard - Mignolet has had dreadful games consistently before yet still maintained his place: Karious has 2 bad games and it's to the bench with him - that is a double-standard. Those using last nights game as some sort of vindication for dropping Karius need their head testing - Mignolet had literally nothing of note to do, nothing. He kept a clean sheet yes but do you honestly think if Karius was in his position he wouldn't? Karius needs support above all else - if only so we can see whether or not he is a viable long-term solution - dropping him at the first sight of pressure will not tell us anything and will do the player more harm than good.


15.) 15 Dec 2016
15 Dec 2016 08:30:50
Its debatable whether it was good or bad for Karius's confidence to play last night. He is looking wobbly, the fans and pundits are criticising him and he has a silly habit of airing his views on social media.
Mignolet is not the answer long-term but right now its maybe best to give him a couple of games. He had a good 90 mins and its healthy competition for No.1.
I appreciate goalkeeper is a confidence position but Karius will appreciate he has a bit of work to do. If a few games on the bench shatters his self-belief then maybe he doesn't have the fortitude to play in the highest-pressured league in the world.
How he addresses this minor setback will show what he is made of.

{Ed002's Note - It is the so called "fans" that battered his confidence - as they have done to so many Liverpool players before him.}


16.) 15 Dec 2016
15 Dec 2016 10:53:19
Honestly, some of you do not read posts properly or do not put things into logical perspective, it just seems like bitter stubbornness to me. You made a decision that mignolet was not good enough and now he should be never used again even if our first choice keeper is as shaky as my banana flavoured milkshake. That's not logical thinking that's unnecessarily dismissive. If you guys could properly digest a post, you would have realised that I said mignolet isn't the long term answer, nothing to do with 'gold fish memory' I remember exactly how bad mignolet was and I wanted him replaced by a keeper that had years of top flight experience, was already playing at a top class level etc instead we went for a gamble in a position we have been dire in for years. Nonetheless I wanted mignolet replaced after his second season possibly even before that, but the right decisions where never made. And I can't say we have made a right decision yet in regards to keepers until yesterday. You guys completely dismiss the need for healthy competition between the two of them which is the reason we wanted two decent keepers in the first place, so if Karius who has not just made a mistake in the last game like you guys with 'gold fish memory' like to ascertain, he has made mistakes since preseason. The difference is, when you win, mistakes get swept under the carpet, but when the luck runs out, the cracks appear and they did with regards to Karius. You say mignolet had nothing to do yesterday, how do you think Karius got his clean sheets? He had tons of saves to make in those games didn't he, cough cough. At the end of the day it was best for Karius to be dropped, I and many others have this opinion, you have yours. Don't ask ed01 to come help you all the time, like you can't make an opinion for yourself.

I will support and back Karius when he comes back into the team, I believe there's a good keeper in there, I am just yet to see it. What I will not do, is not criticise him because of BS excuses. If a player does something wrong continuously do not expect people to be like you and just put on red tinted glasses.


17.) 15 Dec 2016
15 Dec 2016 10:55:29
Agree Ed002 but that is what the modern player needs to find a way to deal with. If you are a sensitive soul you are not going to make it being in the public eye these days. Anyone who throws their opinions into the public domain of social media should expect all sorts of criticism, even more so if you are famous.
If i was Klopp i'd tell the whole team to stop face-twitting and focus on their well-paid jobs.

{Ed002's Note - It is far, far worse at Liverpool than any opther club. The fans have attempted to destroy the owners, the players, the managers and anyone else associated with the club by spewing their constant stream of abuse and hate at everyone and everything. The moronic Manchester United supporters started acting the same way and performances suffered as they did at Liverpool. Maybe they will enter the year-after-year of transition like Liverpool?}


18.) 15 Dec 2016
15 Dec 2016 14:24:41
Kman, your hypocrisy is embarrassing. You are the one using double standards to make it look like Migs is somehow a good GK. He is not. Remember BR benched him for BRAD JONES two seasons ago and the only reason he got his spot back was because Jones got injured. He was atrocious at the time but the old excuse always came up, "he`s a good shot stopper". Utter dross. He`s a good shot stopper. When? Utter trash. If he was that good at shot stopping, why did he lead the PL in goals conceded at the first shot on target last season? Why was he beaten at his near post by Fernandinho at the League Cup final? Why did he cost us double digit points last season alone? Why was he benched for Jones? These are facts I am present here to support my argument.

Also, your facts are screwed. You say Karius made mistakes in throughout preseason. Would that be the preseason of which he broke his hand and missed it`s majority? Again, your double standard is embarrassing. You may not like Karius, I get it and you wanted a top class GK. Guess what, genius? They are all taken hence, you create your own and Migs failed at it for three years yet you are hear rewriting history. We all remember Mingo for his atrocities and the general feeling was that he should be binned and the media and the fans are out to get Karius now because he`s the easier target whereas when we were winning, even the things he did right were never highlighted. I wonder why? Also, the fact that we have fans (not you) rooting for our own player to fail is sickening in itself as at no point in time did I ever want Migs to cost us a game so I could gloat but sadly we are seeing this.

Why is Karius being targeted for us not winning whereas there is so much blame to go around, some of which klopp admitted to? because with him in goal, we conceded 5 in 7 games? Did you give him any credit for that? But when he`s making mistakes which even established GK`s make, they are out in force trying to paint Migs as being hard done by by Klopp whereas it was Migs` failures that brought Karius here. Again, the hypocrisy is deafening and Ed02 is right, some of our fans are THE WORST.


19.) 16 Dec 2016
15 Dec 2016 23:37:45
I don't think that anyone believes Migs will be the answer long term, but that isn't a reason to persist with a keeper that was clearly struggling. What's more damaging to his confidence, taking him out of the team or leaving him in to make more mistakes? If any other player on the team was making mistakes as regularly as him we would all expect that player to be dropped. Keeper should be the same in my opinion.

Byrne way, Migs did alright yesterday, saved a shot at the near post that I'm not sure Karius would have done on recent evidence. I hope Karius comes good but I don't think he's good enough yet.


20.) 16 Dec 2016
16 Dec 2016 15:34:32
LiverDucks, Nowhere did I mention that did not make his mistakes because if you read my post, I pointed that out. my main gripe was the fact that the media, "pundits" and many of our fans were rooting for the boy to fail or were scapegoating him for our troubles that went way beyond Karius` miscues. GK`s make mistakes regardless of their level as DDG and Courtois made mistakes last season. How many points has Migs cost us since he`s been here? A lot. Not once did I hear people in the media or here scapegoat him for the fact that our defence was a sieve BUT all I heard was that he was a great shot stopper, a notion that has no basis in reality. Saying that his mistakes alone cost us the games we didn`t win is nonsense as Klopp has already debunked that. Now after 9 games, he should be binned. Where people shouting for Migs to be binned in the season he conceded 50 gaols? Whatever happened to giving a new player time to adapt and endure with him through his troubles? Al I ask is fairness when judging both of them at the same periods in their LFC careers and in fact, Migs was already playing in the PL before he came to us and he`s was still awful so I`d give the new guy the benefit of the doubt. Also, the save Migs made was the same one Karius made vs Antonio in the WH game. Just stating the facts, mate.