11 Nov 2016 11:31:36
To the Eds, firstly apologize if this is not the appropriate page to ask this, and if it is not, it's ok if you guys decided not to post this.

I wanted to ask for the Eds and fellow Reds' opinions about this poppies issue.

Somehow, I kinda agree with Mills saying instead of "commercializing" the issue, the FAs can just donate all the costs it might incurred if this resulted to fines etc. It would be more beneficial for the cause.

But I'm not British, and I might not understand entirely the significance and the importance of wearing these poppies, and I'm sorry for that. So guys, care to share your guys' opinions and thoughts about this?

Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - I am OK with you posting it and given there has ben some reasonable off subject discussions in recent days, there are no games to moan about and everyone is behaving well, we will see how it goes Haizan.}

1.) 11 Nov 2016
11 Nov 2016 13:25:22
I think it's absolutely disgusting personally.

2.) 11 Nov 2016
11 Nov 2016 13:41:20
I think if players/ people want to wear the Poppy well good for them, BUT, I think the Poppy has been taken over by the PC brigade and it is not an option not to wear the Poppy regardless of nationality. There are people who will be standing at the front of these commemorations who afterwords will not give two hoots about those serving their country.

3.) 11 Nov 2016
11 Nov 2016 12:56:01
It's about rememberence. It's not political or commercial.
Remembering those who have offered and paid the ultimate sacrifice.
It's a personal choice, though why anyone would not want to remember is beyond me. If players want to wear one, they should wear one and the FA should back them up all the way. Players/ clubs may wish to donate to the charity too which would be a very appropriate thing to do IMO.

4.) 11 Nov 2016
11 Nov 2016 14:01:47
Agree with you Haizan the whole thing has gone overboard. Why risk a fine or point deduction when perhaps something can be done before the game to commemorate the occasion. Instead getting a fine defeats the purpose when that money could have gone towards the charity itself.

5.) 11 Nov 2016
11 Nov 2016 14:50:19
I'd rather the team wear it and get deducted points because they'll do bugger all anyway. it's an absolute disgrace been on such a position. Disgusting is an understatement.

6.) 11 Nov 2016
11 Nov 2016 15:21:22
I think we should be proud of what previous generations have gone thru and sacrificed for the rest of us to live as we do today. I think it is only right that we respect the armed forces that have lost their lives in countries all over the world while we get on with our daily lives. It's a British tradition that we buy and wear poppies with pride. A small thankyou for everything that they do and have done in the past. I would stick 2 fingers up to Fifa and take the fine. Same goes for Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.

7.) 11 Nov 2016
11 Nov 2016 15:38:16
I think the decision taken has been disgraceful as it is not a political symbol, it is a symbol of remembrance. It is a memorial for all soldiers who have died and a reminder of the cost of all wars in the hope that there will be no more names to add to the list next year or any year after. This makes it nothing more than a 'local' version of other global organisations with the same message e. g. Peace One Day/ World Peace Day, which FIFA were more than happy to endorse.

Equally, it is also the symbol for the charity Royal British Legion and when Barcelona have UNICEF on their shirts for years, Aston Villa have the Acorns Childrens Hospice often and Liverpool have Seeing is Believing (I'm sure there are loads of other examples I just don't Know them) and no-one cares, I'm not entirely sure how they can justify deciding that this legal charities' symbol isn't allowed but others are.

That being said, the mere fact that the question was asked should be enough - the importance of the day has been remembered. Whatever costs it would incure to show our support is irrelevant and as someone pointed out, a donation of the potential fine amount to the right causes would be far more useful than a fine to show support into the pockets of FIFA. As fun as sticking two fingers up at FIFA is, let's be smart here guys - helping is much more important than being seen to help. Thanks to the FA for trying, it didn't work, FIFA makes bad choices (whats new? ), let's move on.

8.) 11 Nov 2016
11 Nov 2016 17:31:12
Who politicised the poppy? The media has done this not the RBL or the military. Our military are non political. They take the oath of allegiance to the ruling monarch. They serve their country for the greater good. They are then sent off to do the politicians bidding. The same politicians the majority of the population vote in.

9.) 11 Nov 2016
11 Nov 2016 18:14:53
If all players at the clubs were British than i'd say yeah, but some people don't remember what other people remember. As an Irishman I wouldn't want to wear a poppy to remember people who killed Irish people during the troubles (poppy to my knowledge is to remember all fallen soldiers from all wars if I'm corriect) . I know the Irish were just as bad during the troubles and I don't have any grudge to hold against any country for somethings that happened too long ago, let's face it i speak English I support English football teams I have many English friends, colleagues etc. Further to that I know many Irish people fought with Britain in the war and fair play to them for doing their thing but for some it's not them they remember.

James McClane is a perfect example he won't wear a poppy because direct relatives of his were killed by British soldiers and I completely understand his stance yet every year he is berated for not wearing the poppy.

I hope I don't come across in anyway disrespectful on the issue but i do feel it should be celebrated differently. I feel the British should feel proud to honour fallen brothers, sisters, mothers fathers etc. who lost their lives during war. In relation to the upcoming international there should be no reason why the event cannot be celebrated.

10.) 11 Nov 2016
11 Nov 2016 22:42:07
James McClane has more faces than a 50 pence piece. he'all not wear a poppy because of the troubles in NI. however he's happy enough to wear an Easter Lilly which is a symbol of republicanism and killing of innocent people. so whatever James does, I wouldn't hold it up as a sign of what to do!

11.) 12 Nov 2016
11 Nov 2016 23:47:01
How would we feel if the fa or uefa stopped us having the badge for our 96
fallen fans.
Enough said.
Fifa is a joke.
They have so much other fu?, ;"ng bigger problems than bitching abouf people remembering their dead.
If you want to wear a poppy or a lilly wear one just respect the feelings of others.