31 Oct 2016 17:01:43
This has been mentioned usually after a game or 2 and so on but never really discussed, Jordan Henderson and his transition from an out and out attacking midfielder to the role of a holding midfielder (within the style of play currently)

He has recovered from his various injuries and fought back hard from a lot of grief here and on and off the pitch to become probably the most important piece of the LFC jigsaw at the moment. I myself have given this guy stick in the past amongst many others but MY GOD! The improvements he has made to his game and his ability to read the game is second to none currently in the premier league. There's plenty of mention about Couthino Mane etc etc regularly but for a player like him at a time in his career when he could have easily taken the soft route and moved for example down south during the summer, to stay work on his game-fitness even his passing and shooting, the difference in him this season is incredible.

Long may it last and you can see that his performances rub off on others on the pitch as well.

Before anyone jumps down my throat and says HEY he's being doing that for the past few seasons etc, NO he has not and was not allowed to play the way he is now and with the freedom he has as well. Some magical performances so far and a lot more to come, long may it last. This man has been a revelation in my mind this season above and beyond any other player in the premier league.

Quick mention in regards to Couts if he does leave either in Jan or the summer,
would it really damage the way we are playing? To me no.
Can we replace him if he does? We don't need to we have plenty of talent in the club.

Just my 2 cents worth, looking forward to Ed001 10 game report when he gets a chance to get it done. 😉

YNWA.


1.) 31 Oct 2016
31 Oct 2016 17:50:49
Go for the title, Win it, keep coutinho and add players to built the team we have. We need players and not MONEY:


2.) 31 Oct 2016
31 Oct 2016 17:52:24
Pretty sure ed has done the game report, and actually henderson was doing that during the 12/ 13 season when we nearly won it. Its just some people have short memories and jump on the bandwagon when a player starts getting stick. Btw i hold my hands up i did the same with moreno but i never did with hendo as his quality was never in doubt despite his injury years.

{Ed041's Note - I still am amazed how highly ed01 rates Henderson.


3.) 31 Oct 2016
31 Oct 2016 18:42:11
Why, do you not rate Hendo, ed041?

{Ed041's Note - not for me mate, hes a headless chicken. I cant see what he does that's 'great'. He's an ok player.


4.) 31 Oct 2016
31 Oct 2016 18:55:13
I have to respectfully disagree, ed041. Hendo was an amazing box to box midfielder in our title run that year, he really only needed to add goals and he would have been the complete midfielder. This season under Klopp he's morphed into a different kind of midfielder, and he's doing a fantastic job imo. His dirty work usually goes without any praise and he's become a real leader of this side. He's also got incredibly underrated technique and range of passing.

{Ed041's Note - his dirty work, such as what? stopping you leak goals? Driving you forward against teams that sit deep like Burnley and Utd?
Sorry mate as I said hes not for me. But that is just my opinion and the sites would be bloody boring if everyone agreed.


5.) 31 Oct 2016
31 Oct 2016 18:56:43
Apart from his passion, unselfishness, commitment, goal scoring, leading and above all heart I see what you mean Ed41's couts, bobby etc can do what they do because of Hendo.

{Ed041's Note - lmfao!!!! how many goals has he got?
Couts and Firmino can do what they do because of henderson? please explain that because im guessing you mean they dont have to worry about the defensive side because henderson stops that. Well excuse me if i call crap on that as you have conceded a goal every game this season apart from one. Unless that his job?


6.) 31 Oct 2016
31 Oct 2016 19:18:36
It would be so so boring if everyone on here agreed. Sometimes it's interesting for the sake of this site to have people throw a different opinion out there every once in a while.

Ed041 do you not agree that we need a hendo type player in the team though? We can't have a team full of the flair and attacking mid type players

Red Sandman.

{Ed041's Note - it depends on what 'type' of player Henderson is for you? If its a defensive CM its not working is it?


7.) 31 Oct 2016
31 Oct 2016 19:20:20
I personally love Hendo, for him to come out of his injury and to be playing how he is playing is incredible, and is only going to improve! he's a fantastic player.

Each to their own ed41 mate but as we well know, it's not all about goals mate :)

{Ed041's Note - no its not, but as i have said, what is it he does for you though? if hes not scoring, assisting or stopping the goals.


8.) 31 Oct 2016
31 Oct 2016 19:40:59
Just because we've been leaking a goal a game doesn't mean it's Hendo's fault. I mean, could he have stopped Leicester's goal? Crystal Palace from scoring when Lovren miscotrolled the ball? But of course, everyone has their own opinion, or as you said, this site would be boring as hell. By the way, just out of curiosity, what team do you support Ed041?

{Ed041's Note - did i say it was his job? I asked if hes not there to create or score what is his job?
I'm not going to get into who i support as it only invites the knuckle draggers to troll mate.


9.) 01 Nov 2016
01 Nov 2016 01:46:14
He's playing as a deep playmaker his job to get the ball up to the frout 3 . Did anyone see the ball agaist place for firmino goal that's his job .


10.) 01 Nov 2016
01 Nov 2016 05:03:46
Henderson has been doing well for us this season. Don't let the mancs even if its an Ed wind u guys up. If Hendo's and average player as some think, what does that make Pogba? A donkey?


11.) 01 Nov 2016
01 Nov 2016 06:32:11
Lol. Instead of replying to a simple question by Ed041. The posters are beating around the bushes and winding up the man. Henderson is a Fernandinho who is asked to play deeper which is not his natural style of play. Since this team is built on attack philosophy we are certain to concede and leak goals. He is often let down by his partners in the middle mainly one a converted CM and the other an ever learning CM.
That's it Ed041

He is no Kante but a good drinkwater who has no Kante to Partner him.

{Ed001's Note - he is nothing like Drinkwater.}


12.) 01 Nov 2016
01 Nov 2016 06:39:09
Hendo is critical to our system at the moment, he is a solid tackler, closes down any lose of possession with a surge forward and high press, is good in the air to prevent sides going the aerial route, and yet he's also able to direct play from the back and create opportunities for the front 5. He's also well complemented by Wiji and Llalana who's high energy approach helps close down the passing lanes when Hendo presses.

Crystal Palace was a great example where every time we lost possession, Hendos pressing often won the ball back quickly and in dangerous areas, and his quick release to the forwards made lots of opportunities for the side.

There may be better defensive midfielders in the league but not many that can do the allround job he does, and that Klopp requires to make the system tick.


13.) 01 Nov 2016
31 Oct 2016 19:44:06
Ed041's I can only think your missis is out on her annual meeting with her sisterhood tonight and you have the keyboard to yourself for once!


14.) 01 Nov 2016
31 Oct 2016 20:12:16
Most of my friends are with Ed41. As much as I love Henderson, I couldn't or not able to argue much on the points to make them think that theirs are wrong in thinking Henderson is not that good.

My points were always the same. Its the manner of him running around all over the pic, his shouting to his mates, his sidepassings that felt like slowing games a bit but more like making the game and his mates relax and calm a bit for me. My points weren't that strong to convince my mates though. But it's enough for me to feel that this lad is really a leader of the team.


15.) 01 Nov 2016
31 Oct 2016 20:51:05
You can't blame Hendo alone for all the goals conceded. He is being paired by two players who cannot defend for their life. One is a converted CM ( Wijnaldum ), The other is an ever learning CM ( Can ) .
Unlike Chelsea who plays 2 specialist in the middle Juergen Klopp loves attacking football and he has even said he don't care the no of goals let in if we could outscore every opposition.
Henderson is a victim of this system who has to do everything on his own, Setting up the attack, Stopping the counter attack and sometimes pressing as well.

Pair him with a world class CM am class you ll see what he could bring to any team.


16.) 01 Nov 2016
31 Oct 2016 20:53:53
Ed 041
Hope we can keep debate going on Hendo.
When he signed people slated him but I stuck neck out and said he'd be future captain.

Whilst I agree that he doesn't get as many assists as you would expect from a midfield player and he's definitely not a proper defensive midfielder- I really value the tempo he makes us, and indeed England play at.

He's obviously not Gerrard but he seems to make us play quickly which suits Klopps style and the likes of Firmino, Coutinho and Mane.

I honestly think we are less of a team without him.

{Ed041's Note - thats fair enough pal, like i said its just my opinion


17.) 01 Nov 2016
01 Nov 2016 09:28:22
In my opinion the moment Hendo got sent off v man city 2014 season is moment I knew we had blown the league, that's the importance of having Hendo do what he does, but like you say Ed it's just an opinion.


18.) 01 Nov 2016
01 Nov 2016 10:24:23
Worth pointing out that most of the goals we're conceding at the moment are either individual errors or set pieces,
Nothing Henderson can do to stop Lucas giving away a pen or stop Lovren horribly slicing that ball, it's also difficult to pin the set pieces on him, so I'd argue that the goals conceded aren't his fault. It's not like midfields have been running through us,
Also worth pointing to his goal of the season contender and his defence splitting pass V palace,
He's playing as the deepest midfielder we have and has still chipped in with goals and assists, personally I think he's terrific.


19.) 01 Nov 2016
01 Nov 2016 13:52:53
Typical Hendo bashing that we have become accustomed to. Anything bad happens, blame Hendo. Anything great happens, he gets no credit. This is Lucas Leiva all over again. The guy is having a blinder of a season under Klopp`s new system and is learning a new position and actually excelling at it YET he`s still getting unwarranted stick from many on here. Some things never change, I`m afraid.


20.) 01 Nov 2016
01 Nov 2016 17:11:53
When i played footie at school or 5 aside there were always two types of players i wanted on my team. The flashy git that could make and score goals out of nothing and the midfield ball carrier that would anticipate, harry, make vital interceptions and assist. We know which one hendo is, he is not flashy but he sure as hell is effective. Headless chicken i think not, but vital to this teams success in its current incarnation, hell yeah.

{Ed001's Note - I doubt anyone could anticipate Harry.......}