26 Aug 2016 04:31:02
Just heard Coutinho is a doubt for Spurs. I rate Klopp but we are turning in to a bit of an Arsenal on the injury front. I don't know if it is Klopp, or the S&C coach, or the intense training (which I guess would be Klopp), or the demands placed on the players in games. Everyone was celebrating the KM ran in the Arsenal game, but in reality we should have been concerned to have worked that hard and conceded 3 goals. Not the German efficiency we see in the auto industry!
Hopefully this won't be an ongoing saga and Verheijen will be kept quiet.

{Ed001's Note - he will never be quiet because he is trying to get publicity for his 'method' which he sells around the world to the gullible. Intense training does not cause the injuries or the distance covered, it is lack of fitness which does that. If anything they need to train harder, they do not do enough stamina work, not enough running, because players find it boring.}

1.) 26 Aug 2016
26 Aug 2016 06:47:06
What an idiotic and naive post. In regards to the defence, we all know our frailties, but if a player isn't available he isn't available. Finally, complaining about the Arsenal game, we won so move on. Makes sense to complain more about an inept attacking line against Burnely, I suppose we have to blame all that running on that too.

2.) 26 Aug 2016
26 Aug 2016 07:13:12
Fully with you here ed001. Verheijen is correct about fatigue leading to some injuries but he misses the key point that Klopp is trying to address - that the players fitness levels are not good enough!

{Ed001's Note - fatigue leads to injuries in matches, that is correct, but you don't address that by resting them in training. You have to improve their basic fitness levels by working them harder in training and not following this idiotic red zone crap. No point in selling something obvious though, it has to sound scientific to fool idiots into paying for it. Hence red zone/green zone, to make this nonsense into something that can fool those with little real intelligence, such as footballers....}

3.) 26 Aug 2016
26 Aug 2016 08:43:31
Hi eds, "lack of fitness. " so actually how fit a player need to be to be totally injury free? Surely its a process and if its a process then it will always start off as unfit. Then its up to manager to moderate the intensity of training to match current fitness level. So it is intense training called by the manager. U r just skipping the question.

{Ed001's Note - if you actually asked a question that was understandable I would answer it. How can a player, who has grown up playing football on a daily basis, start off as unfit? He must have a basic level of fitness and just need to up it. In the old days they would run and run and run, to improve basic fitness and stamina. Nowadays players are pampered little children who think they are too good to just run, so they do not get fit enough in preseason, as they simply aren't putting in the work.}

4.) 26 Aug 2016
26 Aug 2016 09:18:20
Coutinho has a minor problem, these things happen. What I'm happiest about is not being too worried about his absence. I'm already starting to think that Mane offers a more reliable and consistent threat than the little magician and is a more important player overall. Sure, Couts would be a loss but with Firmino, Lallana, Wijnaldum, Ings and Origi we have plenty of options. Maybe Ojo's injury and Markovic's departure might even make a space on the bench for Ejaria? :)

5.) 26 Aug 2016
26 Aug 2016 09:48:08
Leek, no level of fitness can completely avoid injury in a contact sport. The little niggles and knocks you take in matches can build up.
But, if you want an example of the level of fitness players ought to strive for I'd say Christiano Ronaldo is that example. He is supremely fit, doesn't suffer a lot of injuries, but plays a lot of games, has a very high intensity performance level and takes a lot of hits.

6.) 26 Aug 2016
26 Aug 2016 10:41:14
Coutinho trained yesterday so can't be that bad!

7.) 26 Aug 2016
26 Aug 2016 10:52:37
Spot on Ron!

8.) 26 Aug 2016
26 Aug 2016 11:11:26
Coutinho missed the training yesterday with a hamstring injury. Reported.

9.) 26 Aug 2016
26 Aug 2016 11:08:10
Ed001, fully agree with you, running was the reason why I was so fit in the army and never got injured as my fitness level was so high. Like you say most modern prima donna footballers are to up themselves to do something so mediocre. I remember playing football in the Cypriot hot afternoons for 90mins having completed an 8 mile forced March in the morning.
Come on Jurgen get them running, don't pussy foot around them. Your way or the highway.

Baz.

{Ed001's Note - agreed. Steve McManaman very rarely suffered injury due to him being a cross country runner in his younger days.~

10.) 26 Aug 2016
26 Aug 2016 12:44:08
We do have a lot of injuries though. More than many other pl clubs.

11.) 26 Aug 2016
26 Aug 2016 14:27:03
Edd001 I do my stretches and warm up mate before I have a kick about with my mates and son. Nearly every time I'm cramping up or feel like I'm pulling something. Any ideas mate? I'm 6,4, lean build and eat healthy enough. I just assumed I was a tall Micheal Owen .

12.) 26 Aug 2016
26 Aug 2016 14:27:03
Edd001 I do my stretches and warm up mate before I have a kick about with my mates and son. Nearly every time I'm cramping up or feel like I'm pulling something. Any ideas mate? I'm 6,4, lean build and eat healthy enough. I just assumed I was a tall Micheal Owen .

{Ed001's Note - sounds like a lack of potassium at a guess. It could be a number of things, I remember someone who used to get it from drinking too much plain water, you should always add either small amount of sea salt or something like fruit juice or powdered green tea extract to your water. Other thing that might help is bananas.}

13.) 26 Aug 2016
26 Aug 2016 15:29:34
im no expert Al, bt u should also consider looking at your warmup maybe? apparently there are dos and donts of warmups that may cause that.

ed001 or other posters who know may even chip in if you guys know.

the donts of warmups were definitely how i was taught as a kid in school. some videos on youtube might help you too.

{Ed001's Note - it can be hundreds of things really, but the likeliest is diet issues, as most people suffer from a poor diet.}

14.) 26 Aug 2016
26 Aug 2016 15:33:49
Edd001 cheers mate, I'll add those to the grocery list.

15.) 26 Aug 2016
26 Aug 2016 16:00:03
For years I thought I suffered solely from muscle cramp due to diet. Turns out I am more prone to cramping due to having something called tendonitis. Essentially, my tendons sometimes go into a spasm and the tightening of the muscle apparently makes me more at risk of severe cramp.

Sadly it requires on operation to correct.

16.) 26 Aug 2016
26 Aug 2016 15:44:23
You're just getting old Al, trust me, I've been there 😉.

17.) 26 Aug 2016
26 Aug 2016 16:26:34
A lot of physios suggest active stretching before exercise (leg kicks, backward jogging, lunges, etc) and passive stretching yoga-style after exercise.

18.) 26 Aug 2016
26 Aug 2016 20:46:40
ANnie I do warm up and stretch. Maybe I'm lacking in something.
Haha ron true.

19.) 26 Aug 2016
26 Aug 2016 20:50:02
Depends what is tight AL.

I suffer from very tight calves, i don't know what developed it maybe when i tore my ligament. But you just got to stretch it, not even just before matches/ kickabout, i mean like every single day.

20.) 26 Aug 2016
26 Aug 2016 22:11:52
Dynamic stretches!

21.) 26 Aug 2016
26 Aug 2016 13:25:26
Ron, your CR7 reference is spot on. If you are not fit, you will continue to get knocks and minor injuries which will eventually slow you down. See Studge for example. My coach used to tell me that fitness is the key to performing at an optimal level and not skill because with no fitness, your skill will never show.

CR7 is simply a beast on the training ground and his work ethic is second to none. The guy trains everyday and plays a lot of games and has done this for years hence, his body is tailored to take it because well, his body is used to the regimen he is on and this allows him to play at 100% output every game.

In the old days as Ed said, players ran laps on the training pitch, on the beaches (for strength and endurance) and before training till they were blue in the face and still had to endure a hard afternoon or night on the training pitch. Now, they find it beneath them to do it. players of today wouldn`t survive the old days.