04 Aug 2016 16:43:45
If we replaced Migs or Karius was fit and got a decent left back but still didn't challenge, who is next on the pecking order to be "pecked" at? Will we blame Milner, Sturridge, Clyne? A team is always going to have strengths and weaknesses. Obvious ones or otherwise. Let's not include the supporters as a weakness and get behind our team!

1.) 04 Aug 2016
04 Aug 2016 17:08:44
I remember Lucas getting in torn to shreds In his first season or 2 . I'm sure most would agree that before his injury against Chelsea, his name was probably first on the sheet . I know not all players are the same and show the same character as he did but we need to support what's in front of us. They also thrive off support.

2.) 04 Aug 2016
04 Aug 2016 17:34:46
Pecked at? Oh of course we're not allowed to voice legitimate concerns of make honest critiques of players not up to par. Let's all just be quiet and bleat "come on you reds" and discuss nothing on a website designed for fans to discuss things. Excellent logic.

For the record I, personally, have been critical of Clyne for most of last season - he is awful going forward and average (at the very best) defensively.

Milner runs around lots and that is literally it. No positional sense, no tactical acumen, zilch. Top earner at the club yet not even our 4th best midfielder (I'd rank Henderson, Can, Lucas and Grujic above him) at the club. Seems likely we are shoehorning him into the LB role because of our stupidity/ lethargy in trying to sign a left-back. And we have aspirations of challenging for the title? It's a joke. We have an excellent manager, a very good attacking team and, if the club as run properly, we'd have made the extra signing or 2 needed to really complete the team. Instead we are woefully understaffed in a position of serious weakness.

Do you think other clubs and managers are not aware of our weakness? When we line up with either Moreno or Milner at LB and Mignolet in goal what do you suppose opposition instructions will be? "Attack the left-wing and put in some lofty crosses" or "win set-pieces and just pump it in". Writing is on the wall - we were inconsistent last season for precisely this reason and have done nothing to resolve it - we're going to be inconsistent again. I would be surprised if we scraped 4th - that is the best case scenario in my eyes and I honestly don't see it happening.

This is not "pecking" - I'm a genuine supporter of the club with genuine concerns about how we operate with regards to transfer - it is amateurish and it will leave us further behind others, that is the reality.

3.) 04 Aug 2016
04 Aug 2016 17:52:57
Also Henderson who is our current captain was the target of some bile not so long ago and if memory serves came within an ace of being sold to Fulham under Rogers, towards the back end of last season whilst injured he was surely missed, prefer Henderson and Grujic to Can and Grujic as the middle 2.

4.) 04 Aug 2016
04 Aug 2016 17:53:55
If we don't get top 4 it would be are fault it be because United and Chelsea has gone out there and got really quality players . And the the others have real quality.

5.) 04 Aug 2016
04 Aug 2016 18:10:00
Spot on Seano.

6.) 04 Aug 2016
04 Aug 2016 19:25:30
Spot on Seano I've been saying that too. I think we'll struggle early on and there are certain teams who will know how to beat us and they'll beat us soundly as the same problems exist that were there last season. I could be wrong and I hope I am, but to me going into a season with the worst keeper in the premier league last season as first choice (albeit through injury), no left backs (Moreno isn't a footballer from what I can tell. ) and a weak and tactically naive centre midfield is a recipe for disaster.

7.) 04 Aug 2016
04 Aug 2016 19:30:44
I think most of the supporters are rightly behind Klopp and there isn't a lot of negativity on the site, compared to last year. One player does not make or break a team, although they can certainly damage it, but despite my initial optimism with regards to signing Moreno he is a glaring weakness in the team and we as supporters have a right to point this out. I do agree that some of the hate speech levelled against Moreno, Ayre, the transfer committee etc. is taking things too far, however you have idiots in nearly every group and said idiots will always shout the loudest and make it look like a majority. If you don't think this is the case I advise you to look at the support Wenger received last year.

Each to their own, but I am looking forward to the new season and I believe most of our fans are as well.

8.) 04 Aug 2016
04 Aug 2016 17:20:37
the team is only as strong as the weekest link its a 50/ 50 who that is with migs and moreno in the squad combined they mite have cost us 15 points last season alone if we get a new lb then we have no excuses on paper we would have a very good 11.

9.) 04 Aug 2016
04 Aug 2016 20:50:44
It is pecking. because all ya'll do is find somethong to oeck. Once that is sorted or rather, hasn't been as bad, then ya move onto summin else to peck at. OP is right.

10.) 04 Aug 2016
04 Aug 2016 23:42:08
Fact is we have serious problems and weaknesses that other teams have been able to exploit ar will, those are left back (Moreno), goalkeeper (Mignolet) and our centre midfield. Those issues will still be problems at the start of the season as Moreno is likely to be our first choice left back, Mignolet will he first choice keeper and our centre midfield is the same as last season that got battered at will and exposed our centre backs too often. The way things are I can see the kinds of defeats we suffered against Southampton, West Ham, Sevilla, Swansea, Newcastle, Man United etc happening again.