23 May 2016 03:38:34
rumours swirling as regards to steven gerrard possibly cutting short his American dream to return to Liverpool in a coaching role, big mistake if this was to happen the last thing klopp needs is to have his authority undermined, plus if it goes wrong for jurgen we would have hysterical fans calling for gerrard to become the manager, he has left the club and personally I think it should stay that way, his influence around melwood is not always a positive thing, we have a crucial season coming up we don't need steven gerrard anywhere near it, punditry would be a better gig for him imo.


1.) 23 May 2016
23 May 2016 06:25:31
how does having stevie around undermine klopp's authority? but yea some more time away from stevie is fine by me too!


2.) 23 May 2016
23 May 2016 06:58:38
I don't see Klopp as the kind of manager to have his authority eroded by any player.

However, the bigger issue is that were Gerrard to return to the club (I think in ANY capacity) the club will likely face sanctions as a result of Gerrard admitting to tapping up players at the club's behest during his time here. Ed002 summarised this some time back but cannot find the post right now to back it up.


3.) 23 May 2016
23 May 2016 07:24:15
But most people want Kolo as a coach?

I don't get the double standards.

{Ed001's Note - how is it double standards? This isn't a failed drugs test, a one off issue, serious as that was. Gerrard was with the club for many years, so it is about the influence he wielded while there and how damaging it was. Toure has not been a damaging influence while at the club. I do understand your point, but who better to teach people than someone who has made a mistake and learnt from it? Gerrard made mistakes, but has never shown any remorse or signs of learning from them. If he had, then everyone would be desperate to have him back, as he was such a symbol of the club for so many years.}


4.) 23 May 2016
23 May 2016 07:47:16
thanks for summing up what I was trying to say in my post ed, I just feel it would to much of a media circus if we had gerrard back in any capacity, also has he any coaching badges? is he qualified for the role, kolo has been nothing short of a positive influence for Liverpool, hence the call for him to not only coach but also for him to be retained as a player.

{Ed001's Note - has Kolo got his badges? I am not sure off the top of my head, but I do know Gerrard has been working on his.}


5.) 23 May 2016
23 May 2016 07:50:08
Ok I was coming at it from the 'coaching' point of view rather than the 'mentoring' point you make.
I don't see either of them as world class coaches. I want the best coaches, not former players who have lost their legs and want a wage.
If Kolo/ Gerrard are good enough as players then give them a player's contract, if not then let them go.
I'm worried about sentiment taking over ruthless decision making that's all.
I'm not advocating either of them coming in as coaches.

{Ed001's Note - got you mate, but a coach has to be a mentor as well, the best coaches mentor and guide, not tell. I think there is room for the Kolo and Gerrard, if they are the right kind of person. The issue is not about sentiment, it is whether they are the right fit, which sadly I don't think Gerrard is right now. Hopefully being away from Liverpool will give him a fresh perspective and he will become one. Toure, on the other hand, I am not sure on, everything I am told is positive, but I don't know for myself how true it is. I would keep him as a positive influence because of our shortage of experienced players, rather than to coach.}


6.) 23 May 2016
23 May 2016 08:07:53
Cheers Ed.
On the Kolo thing, as far as I'm aware, he is the only current player who has come out and commented on Sakho's drug taking and he backed him.
Given his history, this was a major PR cock-up and I'm surprised people have missed that. Backing drug cheats publically is not a smart move IMO.

{Ed001's Note - I have not seen that, but it does depend on what he said and the context of it. I would think it is likely he was approached because of his past. If he has said something along the lines of Sakho has made a mistake which he will learn from, then fine. If he has backed him by trying to claim Sakho was innocent, then he should be gagged from ever talking to the media again!}


7.) 23 May 2016
23 May 2016 08:16:29
All he said was that he hadn't spoken to Sakho but he knew how difficult it was, and Sakho knows what Toure thinks of him (which I assume is that he's still a good guy) . Hardly coming out in support.


8.) 23 May 2016
23 May 2016 08:18:03
To be honest the actual quotes are not that bad and you're correct about the context.

As an aside, Sakho's provisional ban ends on Friday I think. It's a bit odd that UEFA haven't even set a date for his hearing when the provisional ban is about to end isn't it?

{Ed001's Note - the season is over, he is not going to the Euros, so there is no need to have a ban in place currently.}


9.) 23 May 2016
23 May 2016 09:38:21
I think it is a huge mistake getting Gerrard back as a coach. His time is gone now and I think as a club, we should move on.


10.) 23 May 2016
23 May 2016 10:24:15
Perhaps Gerrard will help Rodgers out at Celtic. Put some shorts on and be the number 2.


11.) 23 May 2016
23 May 2016 11:25:08
For me there's nobody better to learn off from football ability terns . Gerrard can teach some of younger players and is a leader.


12.) 23 May 2016
23 May 2016 11:27:30
i think gerrard done a lot for the club and did inspire a lot of players while he was playing here, even some fans like myself was made up when he played for us, as i knew he could win a game for us, also a lot of players would rather play for gerrard than kolo, i have not thought about gerrard coming back as a coach but i think as a player last season he could have helped us in the 2 finals, especially the one in Basel, we never had any leaders on the field and kolo played so he is not a leader where as gerrard was, i also think he would not step on klopps toes because klopp has a big personality, but hey its great the way you lot are turning on him after what he won for us, it was his header that started the come back in istanbul, not kolos.


13.) 23 May 2016
23 May 2016 14:37:53
The comeback in instanbul had more to do with rafa bringing on hamman and also milan no doubt thinking it was game over at half- time, there were many heroic displays that night, not least dudek's miraculous save that defies logic, he did do a lot for the club, you are right, but just because some supporters can see that not everything he did was positive, does not mean they did not value his efforts on the pitch, it also does not mean that gerrard can come back to lfc whenever he feels like it, as for kolo he has something most Liverpool players don't have, a premiership winners medal, something gerrard could have had if he could have kept his emotions in check, his leadership skills were sadly lacking when it came to the crunch, if he had kept calm he would have got his rewards.


14.) 23 May 2016
23 May 2016 11:04:28
It opens the door for klopp to have a bad run and all the Liverpool fans to start screaming for Gerrard to take over because he knows the Liverpool way.

Leave him be. The best coaches are the ones who didn't make it as a tip top player. They have more understanding of the game because instead if playing it they watch and watch and watch also they ditn undermine players by moaning about them not being abit to spray a 50 yard ball like they can. Like hoddle.

Let Gerrard spend the next 10 years working his way through the coachcing ladder and then if he's (without being Gerrard) got the merit to manage a top 4 club then bring hum in.

If he is briugh bakc it will also not give hum the hunger to succeed as much because again he's already made jt. Liverpool won't sack once he's on board.

Reject hjm give him that desire ti prove us wrong and hopefully wr can pick him up in a few years.

Zidane I a now another example of why ate can't be on the bench every week because if it goes bad he will be clambered for to be the manager.