18 May 2016 07:22:16
What are the thoughts on our transfer dealings at the moment, based on the Zielinski and Karius deals almost done (press talk) plus moves for Gotze and N'iang (again press talk) . Is it too early?

Clearly players Klopp rates and wants, so I have no problems and this banter question isn't to knock these four.

My question is is it too early? If we win tonight we are in the group stages of the CL. More money, bigger draw of players as all want CL football right. So shouldn't we be waiting? Could we be looking at a Lacazette like West Ham are over N'iang, etc.

Karius sounds good, is he better then previous link Ter Stegen? Would CL football have made that move possible?

Again, this isn't to bash any player, just a general transfer policy question and whether we should be waiting.


1.) 18 May 2016
18 May 2016 08:27:43
True who knows who would be available if we win tonight. But then again Klopp and the team will have identified players who will execute his style best (hopefully. ) so in that sense it'd be irrelevant whether they're signed now or later. Plus the early purchases seem like squad players to me.


2.) 18 May 2016
18 May 2016 08:53:45
From admittedly very little knowledge, I would say matip and grujic will be starters and bring more energy and a bit more quality.
Karius again will be a safer pair of hands and an improvement, but we will have to give him time to fully develop as a player.
Gotze is a gamble- great pedigree and top quality when fit and ready, but poor form in recent times, and a bit injury prone.
Zielinski looks to be a but raw still- very energetic but lacks a bit of composure and touch, but I think he is a player Klopp will develop over the coming season and ease in over time, in the hope he will become a very good player in a year or two's time.
What they seem to have in common is youth and energy, and mostly good quality on the ball. Fingers crossed!


3.) 18 May 2016
18 May 2016 09:30:12
A highly rated Karius for around 5 mil, or a barely played, bench warmer Ter Stegan for 20 mil? I know which one I have always preffered. That's the cheap one.


4.) 18 May 2016
18 May 2016 09:33:30
Furthermore, I think being in the CL or not, it won't make one iota of difference to who Klopp is targeting. Klopps targets will remain Klopp's targets whether we win tonight or not. I highly doubt we have ever been interested in Ter Stegan or him in us.


5.) 18 May 2016
18 May 2016 10:10:50
I don't think Klopp would change his targets whether we're in CL or not. If we were after big name signings then obviously CL would be more attractive but that isn't the way Klopp works. I have high hopes on us getting Gotze but if your expecting lots of big names I think your going to be upset. Klopp prefers to make names rather than buy them and I don't think that will change, CL or not so timing is therefore irrelevant, in that regard I would say the earlier the better. The more players in and having a full preseason under Klopp the better in my opinion.


6.) 18 May 2016
18 May 2016 12:00:17
Thanks for the replies. I'm not expecting big name signings and trust the players Klopp goes for, as you've all said regardless of CL football. I just wondered as there must be players we thought might be out of reach or been told by agents not to bother as we didn't look like CL contenders. For example Reus and Hummels. Always linked and always laughed away, only a couple of months ago it looked like Dortmund would knock us out and we were so inconsistent in the league although we could maybe reach 4th it never looked likely.

I'd imagine these players would be most coaches first choice and maybe especially Klopps. As it was maybe we looked at other targets and now suddenly we are one game away and IF we win, why would it be laughable Augembanyang (erm? ) Reus, or others you'd put in their category could be signings.

As I said, not knocking Zelinski or Matip etc, these guys surely fit what Klopp wants, it just made me think if we knew CL football was very much on the cards would we be looking at the type of players Utd, Arsenal, Madrid, Bayern etc are linked with?


7.) 18 May 2016
18 May 2016 08:36:55
I would share my view on the deals so far.
Matip was done some time back as a replacement for Skrtel / Toure IMO. While it looks like Toure would be staying and we don't know what will happen with Sakho.
Grujic is certainly one for future ( There were host of clubs looking to sign the kid ) He might get some playing time but I expect the kid to go out for a loan to get the taste of the league. Was he needed? I don't know.
Zielinski is a myth I am still trying to unlock. A predominantly offensive midfielder who has scored goals in Italy certainly not a disciplinary Center midfielder.
He might be coming in for Allen in all honesty. ( Not sure how we would play him in the team )
I haven't seen much of Karius and I am pretty sure many sher wouldn't have either. Is he better than Ward ( apparently he was certain to replace Migs 6 months ago and by some means he isn't kicking a ball )

CL wouldn't attract any big players to the club as our record in the completion over past 10 years is as good as Leicester City.

We need to identify the weak spot in the team and bring in the right players. I however expect a LB to come in. It seems we will go into the new season with Can and Stewart as the holding midfielder ( I am not satisfied )

That is my opinion on the transfer so far mate.
Cheers.