22 Apr 2016 04:34:27
With Rafa visiting home tomorrow. Is there anyone else who feels FSG should have reappointed him instead of BR? Incase things failed to work out after a 3 year stint we could probably still have Klopp to come in just like it is now.

1.) 22 Apr 2016
22 Apr 2016 06:02:11
For the last time we were starting to go backwards towards the end of rafas reign.

He had taken us as far as he could.

I personally feel it all went wrong for rafa when paco left the club.

2.) 22 Apr 2016
22 Apr 2016 08:08:09
Rafa was a great manager for us, but got too involved in the politics of the club and made a return anything soon untenable. Personally I also think that he's struggled to keep up with the top managers in the world tactically and is more suited to a mid table team now.

3.) 22 Apr 2016
22 Apr 2016 08:53:14
Paco Ayesteran was massively under rated in terms of what he did for LFC I believe, thingd definitely changed when he left.

4.) 22 Apr 2016
22 Apr 2016 08:56:54
Nah! BR gave it a good go and fsg were lookibg for someone more dynamic i rekon.

5.) 22 Apr 2016
22 Apr 2016 09:20:21
No surprise that Pako left and we took a turn for the worse and he goes to Valencia and they have a turn in form.

6.) 22 Apr 2016
22 Apr 2016 09:45:39
I'm going to be in the minority here but Rafa is so over hyped by our lot it's ridiculous.

He won the CL by unbelievable circumstance, (that no manager could of coached)

He won fa cup (or should I say Gerrard)

Every transfer window we took more dross on

He wanted to get rid of the best midfielder in the league.

His only competition for 4th spot was villa

I'm sorry but what did he do? Made us hard to beat in Europe?

7.) 22 Apr 2016
22 Apr 2016 10:17:49
Still a better manager than Rodgers.

8.) 22 Apr 2016
22 Apr 2016 10:26:26
oh good lord!

9.) 22 Apr 2016
22 Apr 2016 10:26:33
Hem b - what did the Romans ever do for us?

{Ed001's Note - actually a lot of the stuff attributed to them was not them. Such as the roads, the roads were already there, they just improved them. They get a great press because they wrote the history of the time that we use, not because they were all that great.}

10.) 22 Apr 2016
22 Apr 2016 10:41:02
He's had a lot more experience than BR too, give it time and Rodgers will be a much better manager. Yes he made quite a few mistakes when in charge of us but nobody slated him when we were challenging city for top spot. He did well with a team that had to cope with their main striker being banned for large parts, sulking for a move to Barcelona between being unplayable! Gerrard was at the end of his career and sterling was another sulking half the time. He did a good job, maybe LFC was a bit too soon for him but he always gave 100% and was honoured to manage us unlike some of the players! He has and still has respect for our club but people enjoy getting on his back. Nobody seems to go on about super Woy Hodgson's abysmal appointment though!

{Ed001's Note - but he didn't do a good job, that was why he was sacked.}

11.) 22 Apr 2016
22 Apr 2016 10:42:26
What about education edOO1, or the aquaducts?

Priceless that we can also come on here for a view on this stuff!

{Ed001's Note - education existed before the Romans. Aquaducts was a design they improved upon, like pretty much everything they did. I am not actually sure if they were here in the UK before them, they certainly weren't the first to build them in Europe. The Romans weren't inventors or innovators. Slavery was probably the thing they can take the most credit for introducing to the UK to be honest.}

12.) 22 Apr 2016
22 Apr 2016 11:37:44
Rafa was a great manager for us. Yes he got sacked because he made some mistakes but you can't deny his record as a manager
He brought us some incredible moments.
Look at where we were before he came and where we've been since he left. Those moments have not been reproduced or even close.

13.) 22 Apr 2016
22 Apr 2016 11:47:08
Sad that our most successful manager in recent times doesn't get the respect he deserves.

14.) 22 Apr 2016
22 Apr 2016 11:48:12
Rafa took dross on? Xabi, garcia, mash, torres etc etc. dunno what your talking about lad.

15.) 22 Apr 2016
22 Apr 2016 12:23:35
Abo, I think he's talking about Itandje, Cavilieri, Dossena, Johnson, Degen, Skrtel, Paletta, Plessis, Insua, Riera, Pennant, Aquilani, N'Gog, Voronin, Keane, Morientes, Cisse etc.

Don't get me wrong, he was an excellent tactician and for people to say he had nothing to do with the trophies we won under his management is total BS. However his tinkering, bloated wage budget, and defensive set up cost us the title in 08/ 09 season. We had the best team in Europe that season by some distance. Yet somehow we won nothing due to negative tactics.

One other thing he doesn't get enough credit for is the revamp of the academy. Just because we're only seeing the benefits of that now doesn't mean he wasn't the catalyst. It's been improved further since Rafas days, but he kicked off the revolution. For that alone he deserves thanks.

16.) 22 Apr 2016
22 Apr 2016 13:16:30
At the time of buying Johnson, Skrtel, Insua, Riera, Aquilani, N'Gog, Keane, Morientes and Cissee were all good buys

Johnson was one of the most dangerous attacking FB's in the league.

When paired with Agger and Riena behind him, Skrtel was a fairly quick and very solid defender - he only went to pot without their constant instruction

Insua was a good young player who we made a tidy profit on, and who went on to have a decent career.

N'Gog was also a pacey young striker worth taking a punt on, he just never developed.

Keane was the season we bough him, and the season following, a key member of a very dangerous spurs attack and a very successful premiership striker. In fact had we not given up and sold him so quickly, we would probably have won the league that year.

Moriantes, Cisse and Aquilani all proved before and after that they were talented guys, they just all had rotten luck with injuries (mostly impact injuries) and never got the chance to show their stuff. There is some argument that Morientes's past injuries had already done him in and Cisse was a vile human being, but all good players.

The transfer record of Rafa is no-where near as bad as people make it out. The biggest problem was volume of signings rather than who they were in the majority of scenarios.

{Ed002's Note - Aquilani had a lot more problems at Liverpool than his injury.}

17.) 22 Apr 2016
22 Apr 2016 15:05:04
Rafa achieved the bare minimum every year, scraped 4th. The leading pack were out of sight. He never over achieved, he never coached anyone to be better than they were. He had no competition for CL places. That year we came close 2nd had sod all to do with him. That year we played completely different to any other year.

He went to the most dead cert team for the league inter Milan, and ballsed it right up. How many years had they won it on the trot when he got involved. He's been bang average everywhere he has gone since.

By the way I'm not slagging him off, very grateful for all he has done and he clearly loves the club I'm just saying he is not all that.

18.) 22 Apr 2016
22 Apr 2016 16:35:07
Hem b you are being extremely disingenuous towards rafas contribution. Put another way how close were we to becoming a european power house for years and winning the champions league before he came on board. And as someone else said, to suggest that bodgers is in the same league as rafa is frankly insulting.

Yes he made mistakes but to suggest it was all luck and the players did it all by themselves is just nonsense.

Him and the then team brought me a night i will never ever forget and i thank and respect him for that. We now have klopp who i truly believe will win us the league next season and i look forward to the rollercoaster ride.

19.) 22 Apr 2016
22 Apr 2016 17:13:03
So in the space of 4 years we won the champions league, the fa cup, got to the final of the CL again and came second. And none of that had anything to do with the manager being good at his job?

20.) 22 Apr 2016
22 Apr 2016 18:18:24
The owners didn`t want him back and I`m elated at the fact that they did not look his way. Rafa is NOT the only one that can coach us neither is he a saint. In fact, he wasa huge part of the problem, not a solution and NEVER will be.