13 Oct 2015 20:37:14
What do you people think will happen to Joe Allen, obviously we have recently seen that he doesn't warrant a place over Rossiter but in the past Allen has had some really good games. Last season from Southampton game to Man United game for instance, he was really good. Do you see Klopp using him and getting the best?


1.) 13 Oct 2015
13 Oct 2015 20:53:31
Who is "we"?. because personally i would start him ahead of Rossiter. I don't know why Liverpool fans are so obsessed with the youngsters. scroll down pages people want illori to come back and start games for us yet he can't even cement a place in a relegation threatened Aston villa.


2.) 13 Oct 2015
13 Oct 2015 21:01:42
Firstly you can argue that the tactics deployed did not suit his game; however I think his positional sense in those tactics were v poor and leaving too many gaps.

Going forward positional sense with each player defending when we do not have the ball and potential movement of the ball quickly (presuming Klopp deploys those tactics) for me means there are better players in the team ahead of him / younger players that could play if he was sold.

I have nothing against the player but he is no welsh xave; that being said we have not been an English Barcalona!


3.) 13 Oct 2015
13 Oct 2015 21:04:42
Allen's occasionally strung together a few good performances, and you think "okay, he's looking good now, he'll just kick on with a bit of confidence, he'll start to really influence matches, we'll see the guy we paid £15m for", but he doesn't kick on. He reaches a point of good but not great for a few matches and he has a game where he basically gets completely dominated by the opposition, his confidence is destroyed, and he's poor again until he's dropped.

I'm not really sure why it happens, tbh.

I could actually see Klopp giving him a chance, because in terms of his movement and vision, he is better than Milner at center mid, imo, but I don't think he'll take it.


4.) 13 Oct 2015
13 Oct 2015 21:05:28
I'm not sure what I've missed, but there is nothing obvious that I've seen that warrants Rossiter a place over Allen at all. Along with most, I think Rossiter could go onto make a good player, but I just think we are a bit unrealistic as to how good our youngsters are.

The way I look at it is, if JR wasn't one of our academy players and it was said that we were looking to buy him and start giving him 1st team football there would be uproar about the standard of player that we are now chasing.

If anyone should be getting opportunities IMO it should be Teixeira, but he's not better than our current 1st team players, so in the position we find ourselves in, other than Capital one games and selected Europa league games, I don't see where they will play to get the game time they need.


5.) 13 Oct 2015
13 Oct 2015 21:17:40
One or two games is not a good enough return for the price we paid or justification to be given a starting place. Nine times out of ten he is outplayed in midfield and has a negative impact on the game.

Although I would hope every player will have an opportunity to prove himself I don't see him getting a look in. We've got Hendo, Lucas, Can, Milner, coutinho, Texeira and Rossiter all of which I would argue would deserve a starting place ahead of Allen.


6.) 13 Oct 2015
13 Oct 2015 22:02:35
Neither Allen or Rossiter should be playing in the side unless it's a second string game


7.) 13 Oct 2015
13 Oct 2015 22:16:58
When Brendan Rodgers is installed as the new Newcastle United manager, taking over from Steve McClaren even he won't try and sign Joe Allen from us.


8.) 13 Oct 2015
13 Oct 2015 22:25:33
I think you may be missing the point regarding the support for Rossiter over Allen.
Allen has had more than enough chanced to showcase his talents and has failed overall.
Rossiter is a young lad with potential who has not been given enough chances.
So the clamour is for a youngster, in this instance Rossiter, to be given a chance before Allen to see if he is good enough.
It is clear Allen is not good enough, so let's see if someone else is.


9.) 14 Oct 2015
14 Oct 2015 05:12:21
Personally, I think we(the fans) should wipe the slate clean with the players we have already. It's pretty clear that under the previous management, players such as Ibe, Sterling, Flanagan(did really well) and Can have all been played out of position on a number of occasions, sometimes not even playing in their preferred position at all. This was probably the case for just about everyone except Mignolet(which is debatable even!) and Benteke, this very clearly affected the confidence of some, perhaps many more were also misused when playing?

I think people should see what happens this year, Klopp may very well walk out tomorrow for some bizarre reason or Liverpool could go unbeaten for the rest of the season who knows? It's Football and stranger things have happened ^_^


10.) 14 Oct 2015
14 Oct 2015 05:20:33
Oh I forgot to add, that I believe Klopp will enjoy working with Ibe, Henderson and Gomez as they are all really eager to learn and improve so I've read on here and in interviews.


11.) 14 Oct 2015
14 Oct 2015 10:23:58
I think Klopp will enjoy Oktoberfest 😎🍻🍺🍻