18 Jul 2017 22:35:36
Hi Eds

Sorry to bother you with this how much do you reckon we have transfer funds wise after the Robertson (fingers crossed) transfer is announced? As I'm seeing a lot of links with crazy amounts of money and although it's summer transfer window n everyone's linked with everyone but I was just wondering.

Thanks in advance 👍🏼.

{Ed002's Note - I would ignore everything to do with money as it confuses. It is not a case of spending £65.21M on Keita and £71.6M on van Dijk as have already been agreed as "done deals", it is a question of when payment is due to be paid.}

1.) 18 Jul 2017
18 Jul 2017 23:30:49
Very precise figures ed002? 🤔🤔🤔.

{Ed002's Note - Damn, sorry. £60M and £70M.}

2.) 18 Jul 2017
18 Jul 2017 23:42:50
We sorry if I have misunderstood, have those fees been agreed, just not when to pay them?

{Ed002's Note - Sorry, I shouldn't have mentioned it.}

3.) 19 Jul 2017
18 Jul 2017 23:54:50
Would the transfer fee have to be fully paid in 3 years if the players contract was for 3 years?

{Ed002's Note - No.}

4.) 19 Jul 2017
18 Jul 2017 23:57:00
Who put that cat there? And why are all these pidgeons going crazy? 😂.

5.) 19 Jul 2017
19 Jul 2017 00:13:38
Thats more like it! 😂😂😂.

6.) 19 Jul 2017
19 Jul 2017 06:23:02
We missed out on Kovacic for the same reason!

7.) 19 Jul 2017
19 Jul 2017 09:21:30
Ed, I may have misworded the question - I am not worried about the figures!
Was it tongue in cheek, or have sums been agreed for the players?

8.) 19 Jul 2017
19 Jul 2017 09:31:10
Harry, you should just come up with one new username that lists all of your previous ones. That way it keeps us all informed of your obsessions year on year 😉.

9.) 19 Jul 2017
19 Jul 2017 09:37:38
Tongue in cheek Fencey.

10.) 19 Jul 2017
19 Jul 2017 08:17:33
Wow Ed002! there goes my imagination.

11.) 19 Jul 2017
19 Jul 2017 08:59:22
Ed you diamond. What a blow to our rivals to see liverpool land two MASSIVE big money signings. Well done klopp. We have z really good manager guys. He knows this is liverpool chance to get back up there. A force in European football. Let knock those F*#*#g mancs of their perch.

12.) 19 Jul 2017
19 Jul 2017 11:44:23
Oh dear fencey.

13.) 19 Jul 2017
19 Jul 2017 14:01:18
So there working on the structure of the payments?

Wowza. Can't see that much being spent without Brazilian money coming in.

14.) 19 Jul 2017
19 Jul 2017 14:03:11
The majority of transfer fees between European clubs are paid over a two year period these days. From the buying club's standpoint, even if paid over two years, it's accounted for over the length of a players contract as a deferred cost. They may pay out £40m for example, but if the player is on a four year contract, the fee, salary, bonuses, singing fee etc is 'amortized' (spread) over those years for accounting reasons.

This is why net spend is useless.

That said, when players are sold, this is accounted for immediately, and any profit or loss on the player fee, as well as savings on the due salary bonuses etc are accounted for that year.

The money clubs save, can then be reinvested, including any increases on player salaries etc. The only impact player purchases have immediately, is on cash flow and the accounts for that trading year, and subsequent years for player costs spread over the lifetime of a contract.

Liverpool, for instance, could spend £250m on players this summer, but they'd also end up paying at least twice that in salaries/ bonuses etc in additional costs over the next 4-5 years. Hence the need to sell as well as buy. As a club, Liverpool can only afford that kind of outlay with success - which is why it's imperative that we secure a win from the CL playoff, and arrive consistently in the CL each season - it's the only way for the club to compete, despite strong commercial partnerships.

Sorry for the long post.